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	<title>Comments on: UFC Ban of Condom Depot is a Move in the Right Direction</title>
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		<title>By: John Fidi</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Fidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-6856&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Reverend Turk Vangel &lt;/a&gt; 
I get a kick out of 90% off these MMA boards. Heres the bottom line. You want to get your top dollar sponsors. Pay your athletes like professional athletes. DO NOT PAY THEM LIKE PART TIME PIKERS!  

As Owner of CondomDepot.com, I became close with many of the guys I sponsored and believe me, sponsorship money that smaller companies like mine provide keeps them training and keeps their family fed.  Its pretty damn hard to try to train for a &quot;Career&quot; in this sport when you have to work a 40 hour week AND train.  For what some of these guys get paid, you do the math.  You cant live on a purse of 5 or 10 grand! And these companies that put these bouts on are banking heavy. You think the guys fighting are seeing any trickle down? 

Good Luck to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-6856" rel="nofollow">@Reverend Turk Vangel </a><br />
I get a kick out of 90% off these MMA boards. Heres the bottom line. You want to get your top dollar sponsors. Pay your athletes like professional athletes. DO NOT PAY THEM LIKE PART TIME PIKERS!  </p>
<p>As Owner of CondomDepot.com, I became close with many of the guys I sponsored and believe me, sponsorship money that smaller companies like mine provide keeps them training and keeps their family fed.  Its pretty damn hard to try to train for a &#8220;Career&#8221; in this sport when you have to work a 40 hour week AND train.  For what some of these guys get paid, you do the math.  You cant live on a purse of 5 or 10 grand! And these companies that put these bouts on are banking heavy. You think the guys fighting are seeing any trickle down? </p>
<p>Good Luck to you.</p>
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		<title>By: @Chris Shanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>@Chris Shanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris Shanks: Did you forget to take your meds today? Or, perhaps, take some that you shouldn&#039;t have? I ask because I do not think I have ever read anything more fragmented and confused then your diatribre against another post(er) about which you seem to have understood very little. I wouldn&#039;t characterise your post as &quot;bullshit&quot;. I would call it rambling psychosis. If you read this then let me add that I hope you have slept off whatever demons were attacking you at the time. I also recommend that you stay away from hallcinogenics and small children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris Shanks: Did you forget to take your meds today? Or, perhaps, take some that you shouldn&#8217;t have? I ask because I do not think I have ever read anything more fragmented and confused then your diatribre against another post(er) about which you seem to have understood very little. I wouldn&#8217;t characterise your post as &#8220;bullshit&#8221;. I would call it rambling psychosis. If you read this then let me add that I hope you have slept off whatever demons were attacking you at the time. I also recommend that you stay away from hallcinogenics and small children.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Shanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Shanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-6846&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Kevin Miller  &lt;/a&gt; 
I am so shocked about the bullshit that you are talking that I need to take a step back. So that is what I am going to do.

I want to make one thing very clear to you before we continue. I am not a christian and in many cases I protest against it. I have a question for you however Mr Miller, when has faith ever been an issue in the sport? why does this man&#039;s religion have anything to do with the condom depot being banned as a sponsour?

Are you so stupid that you have to bring faith into the one place where it has not latched on to yet?

The Condom factory was banned because it was the choice of Zuffa. It is not up to us to say anything about what they decide to do, we cannot change anything, however much we think that we can. I don&#039;t agree with it, fighters should have the best possible chance to make it in the sport because that leads to development.  But what can you do?

Moving on to your next statement. I would like to inform you that the audiance of MMA is made up of 45% women. Now if you do the maths, to me that makes it nearly an even split.

You also have a growing women&#039;s division in Strikeforce. 

Why would you want to clean a combat sport up? Do you watch MMA for the blood and the guts, because I sure as hell don&#039;t, I watch it to commend the men and WOMEN who are skilled in mant forms of mixed martial arts. On the strength of that statement Mr Miller I would be shocked if you knew anything technical about the sport. 

I would also like to point out to you that Strikeforce can be seen on CBS on PRIME TIME shows. King of the Cage can also be seen 173 days of the year on many different networks. 

Yeah Yeah, what you just heard there Mr Miller was areguement fall to bits. As far as the Burkas, WTF you pitiful self-obcessed man. Look into the wider world it is more complex than faith. You also talk about how faith shouldn&#039;t be brought into the sport. Sorry but your whole response to this atricle has been centered around faith. 

I hope that you read this, really I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-6846" rel="nofollow">@Kevin Miller  </a><br />
I am so shocked about the bullshit that you are talking that I need to take a step back. So that is what I am going to do.</p>
<p>I want to make one thing very clear to you before we continue. I am not a christian and in many cases I protest against it. I have a question for you however Mr Miller, when has faith ever been an issue in the sport? why does this man&#8217;s religion have anything to do with the condom depot being banned as a sponsour?</p>
<p>Are you so stupid that you have to bring faith into the one place where it has not latched on to yet?</p>
<p>The Condom factory was banned because it was the choice of Zuffa. It is not up to us to say anything about what they decide to do, we cannot change anything, however much we think that we can. I don&#8217;t agree with it, fighters should have the best possible chance to make it in the sport because that leads to development.  But what can you do?</p>
<p>Moving on to your next statement. I would like to inform you that the audiance of MMA is made up of 45% women. Now if you do the maths, to me that makes it nearly an even split.</p>
<p>You also have a growing women&#8217;s division in Strikeforce. </p>
<p>Why would you want to clean a combat sport up? Do you watch MMA for the blood and the guts, because I sure as hell don&#8217;t, I watch it to commend the men and WOMEN who are skilled in mant forms of mixed martial arts. On the strength of that statement Mr Miller I would be shocked if you knew anything technical about the sport. </p>
<p>I would also like to point out to you that Strikeforce can be seen on CBS on PRIME TIME shows. King of the Cage can also be seen 173 days of the year on many different networks. </p>
<p>Yeah Yeah, what you just heard there Mr Miller was areguement fall to bits. As far as the Burkas, WTF you pitiful self-obcessed man. Look into the wider world it is more complex than faith. You also talk about how faith shouldn&#8217;t be brought into the sport. Sorry but your whole response to this atricle has been centered around faith. </p>
<p>I hope that you read this, really I do.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveClinch</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveClinch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 02:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Condom Depot is a sex store. Lets not act like The UFC banned Trojan Condoms, they banned a company with sleezy ads, that sells just as many Vibrators as they do condoms. Sorry, I thought seeing The Condom Depot on fighters shorts was trashy and degrading to the sport. +1 for the UFC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Condom Depot is a sex store. Lets not act like The UFC banned Trojan Condoms, they banned a company with sleezy ads, that sells just as many Vibrators as they do condoms. Sorry, I thought seeing The Condom Depot on fighters shorts was trashy and degrading to the sport. +1 for the UFC.</p>
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		<title>By: jr bakerr</title>
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		<dc:creator>jr bakerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi like im jr and im into muaythai and into training jiujitsu  i dont drink at all whats up with mickeys and bud light how is that going to help my training . and when u go to the baseball park u see all the beer sponsers i dont like that all the kids are going to think thats cool, but  u know what people its all about the money,  money is power, sad but true</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi like im jr and im into muaythai and into training jiujitsu  i dont drink at all whats up with mickeys and bud light how is that going to help my training . and when u go to the baseball park u see all the beer sponsers i dont like that all the kids are going to think thats cool, but  u know what people its all about the money,  money is power, sad but true</p>
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		<title>By: Christa Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christa Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet they would accept sponsorship from Trojan or Lifestyles in 2 seconds... Is it only because &quot;condom&quot; is used in the name? I mean really?! We&#039;re watching these guys beat each other sometimes into bloody pulps while sweatily manhandling each other and you think this sponsor is the issue on becoming mainstream? HA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet they would accept sponsorship from Trojan or Lifestyles in 2 seconds&#8230; Is it only because &#8220;condom&#8221; is used in the name? I mean really?! We&#8217;re watching these guys beat each other sometimes into bloody pulps while sweatily manhandling each other and you think this sponsor is the issue on becoming mainstream? HA!</p>
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		<title>By: Reverend Turk Vangel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reverend Turk Vangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My views on religion have nothing do with my thoughts on the sport I love so much moving forward. I am an ordained Reverend, true. I do not preach at a church, nor do I attend church.

My views only reflect where I see the sport needs to be headed. 

The NFL also has the ability to ban sponsors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My views on religion have nothing do with my thoughts on the sport I love so much moving forward. I am an ordained Reverend, true. I do not preach at a church, nor do I attend church.</p>
<p>My views only reflect where I see the sport needs to be headed. </p>
<p>The NFL also has the ability to ban sponsors.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I think just the opposite.  Sports like baseball, football, basketball, etc. should be sponsored by companies like CondomDepot.com.  Instead of, say, GoDaddy.com which basically uses half-naked women to sell domains (what?  that&#039;s weirder than using half-naked women to sell beer).  So it&#039;s okay to have sexually overt sponsors, but not sponsors that support safe sex, because it might offend conservatives?  Really?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I think just the opposite.  Sports like baseball, football, basketball, etc. should be sponsored by companies like CondomDepot.com.  Instead of, say, GoDaddy.com which basically uses half-naked women to sell domains (what?  that&#8217;s weirder than using half-naked women to sell beer).  So it&#8217;s okay to have sexually overt sponsors, but not sponsors that support safe sex, because it might offend conservatives?  Really?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the UFC is basically a monopoly and gets to bans sponsors and yet they&#039;re not going to subsidize any money lost by the fighters from the ban. I could see banning them from a single event if it&#039;s not going to work in Abu-Dabi, but everywhere?? That&#039;s pretty lame and not fair to the under paid fighters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the UFC is basically a monopoly and gets to bans sponsors and yet they&#8217;re not going to subsidize any money lost by the fighters from the ban. I could see banning them from a single event if it&#8217;s not going to work in Abu-Dabi, but everywhere?? That&#8217;s pretty lame and not fair to the under paid fighters.</p>
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		<title>By: Frankbh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frankbh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This ban is totally insane. I agree with the other comments on this being a move in the WRONG direction.  What are they afraid of? Condom Depot has been supporting  the sport and fighters since nearly day one and now Dana White figures he can simply cut them out of the picture? Personally I believe banning Dana White from the sport would be a move in the right direction. He still believes he is bigger than the sport and seems to be getting worse with each passing day. He took UFC as far as he can but now it&#039;s time for him to move on and get someone who cares more about the sport than simply themself. If he isn&#039;t removed soon, I can not see the sport lasting and that would be disasterous for all the fans that enjoy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This ban is totally insane. I agree with the other comments on this being a move in the WRONG direction.  What are they afraid of? Condom Depot has been supporting  the sport and fighters since nearly day one and now Dana White figures he can simply cut them out of the picture? Personally I believe banning Dana White from the sport would be a move in the right direction. He still believes he is bigger than the sport and seems to be getting worse with each passing day. He took UFC as far as he can but now it&#8217;s time for him to move on and get someone who cares more about the sport than simply themself. If he isn&#8217;t removed soon, I can not see the sport lasting and that would be disasterous for all the fans that enjoy it.</p>
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		<title>By: P Middy</title>
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		<dc:creator>P Middy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Mr. Vangel.  This is a situation where dealing with short-term loss and difficulty can have superior long term effect.  I know this is not ideal for fighters at all.  Unfortunately, in business, you sometimes have to make sacrifices before you can make gains.  I know this personally.  The company I work for repurchased all its shares and re-privatized because shareholders would basically not allow for the losses required in the 3 year plan laid out for them.  The company was privatized and we made the painful decisions.  Once we went public again, shares were at all all time high, after three years of down revenue.  The company is healthier than ever before.  Moving &quot;up&quot; in the world of sponsors will help fighters in the long run.  Brands like Nike, Reebok, etc . . . have lots more cash to hand out to fighters than Condom Depot.  NBC, ABC, etc . . . have lots more money to offer than Spike TV.  Fight pays can increase as UFC&#039;s TV deals become more lucrative.  It&#039;s no comfort to fighters, especially considering how short term some of their UFC stints can be.  But Mr. Vangel is correct.  In the long term this is best for the entire sport, including fighters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Mr. Vangel.  This is a situation where dealing with short-term loss and difficulty can have superior long term effect.  I know this is not ideal for fighters at all.  Unfortunately, in business, you sometimes have to make sacrifices before you can make gains.  I know this personally.  The company I work for repurchased all its shares and re-privatized because shareholders would basically not allow for the losses required in the 3 year plan laid out for them.  The company was privatized and we made the painful decisions.  Once we went public again, shares were at all all time high, after three years of down revenue.  The company is healthier than ever before.  Moving &#8220;up&#8221; in the world of sponsors will help fighters in the long run.  Brands like Nike, Reebok, etc . . . have lots more cash to hand out to fighters than Condom Depot.  NBC, ABC, etc . . . have lots more money to offer than Spike TV.  Fight pays can increase as UFC&#8217;s TV deals become more lucrative.  It&#8217;s no comfort to fighters, especially considering how short term some of their UFC stints can be.  But Mr. Vangel is correct.  In the long term this is best for the entire sport, including fighters.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Reverend,

Your thoughts on sponsorship are both archaic and completely biased by your narrow minded religious views.  Who are you to cast judgement on a companies worthiness to sponsor a sporting event.  MMA fighting is watched primarily by men, and most of them are not reverends.  The first time I saw Condom Depot as a sponsor, I went to their website.  It made sense to me and millions of others.  Condoms are now a mainstream product wether you like it or not.  Your comment on what was obviously Affliction as an &quot;awful&quot; clothing company was clearly based on your pompous religios views as well.  Affliction is a wonderful clothing line with a great product.  Sorry that they don&#039;t carry the religious message that you were hoping for,  But their rapid growth in the market tells us all that you are the moral minority on this issue.

MMA, like boxing, is fighting.  Not a mainstream sport like football, basketball or baseball.  So let&#039;s not kid ourselves, your never going to see the prime time audience that these other sports enjoy.  You can clean it up all you want, but it&#039;s still a couple of guys beating the crap out of each other.  Reverend, does it not bother you that we watch the fights to see blood being shed or a guy getting hit and knocked out cold?  

Just like our government, we need to keep religious views out of our organized sports.  Especially a sport like MMA.  Next thing you know, the ring girls will be wearing burkas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Reverend,</p>
<p>Your thoughts on sponsorship are both archaic and completely biased by your narrow minded religious views.  Who are you to cast judgement on a companies worthiness to sponsor a sporting event.  MMA fighting is watched primarily by men, and most of them are not reverends.  The first time I saw Condom Depot as a sponsor, I went to their website.  It made sense to me and millions of others.  Condoms are now a mainstream product wether you like it or not.  Your comment on what was obviously Affliction as an &#8220;awful&#8221; clothing company was clearly based on your pompous religios views as well.  Affliction is a wonderful clothing line with a great product.  Sorry that they don&#8217;t carry the religious message that you were hoping for,  But their rapid growth in the market tells us all that you are the moral minority on this issue.</p>
<p>MMA, like boxing, is fighting.  Not a mainstream sport like football, basketball or baseball.  So let&#8217;s not kid ourselves, your never going to see the prime time audience that these other sports enjoy.  You can clean it up all you want, but it&#8217;s still a couple of guys beating the crap out of each other.  Reverend, does it not bother you that we watch the fights to see blood being shed or a guy getting hit and knocked out cold?  </p>
<p>Just like our government, we need to keep religious views out of our organized sports.  Especially a sport like MMA.  Next thing you know, the ring girls will be wearing burkas.</p>
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		<title>By: juan araluce</title>
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		<dc:creator>juan araluce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BOO. WHat kind of move in the right direction is it to take money away from these hard working fighters!?! what the hell, are we to damn sensitive that we cant bare to see CONDOM DEPOT on some shorts, who cares? Condoms are good incase people have forgotten. BAD MOVE by the UFC and its a step in the wrong direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BOO. WHat kind of move in the right direction is it to take money away from these hard working fighters!?! what the hell, are we to damn sensitive that we cant bare to see CONDOM DEPOT on some shorts, who cares? Condoms are good incase people have forgotten. BAD MOVE by the UFC and its a step in the wrong direction.</p>
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		<title>By: PdxMMAeXaminer</title>
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		<dc:creator>PdxMMAeXaminer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 01:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully I do not offend anyone in my honesty when I say that whomever wrote this obviously has never been involved with professional fighters or MMA directly, as a fighter, manager, or the like. A move in the right direction? Any time professional fighters lose money, sponsorship funded training, etc. it is a travesty, period. Condom Depot provided HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of real, tangible dollars for fighters. Many of which will lose out on comped training, etc. due to the ban. How in the world could this be a step in the right direction? Are condoms not &quot;main stream&quot; enough? If not, shouldn&#039;t they be? Did you know that this just happens to be AIDS awareness month? They can give out condoms at High Schools, but sponsoring professional fighters is bad? In my opinion, its articles and writers/fans like this that help keep the sport of MMA from progressing further. Bud Light can sponsor events, but god forbid a condom retailer from doing the same for fighters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully I do not offend anyone in my honesty when I say that whomever wrote this obviously has never been involved with professional fighters or MMA directly, as a fighter, manager, or the like. A move in the right direction? Any time professional fighters lose money, sponsorship funded training, etc. it is a travesty, period. Condom Depot provided HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of real, tangible dollars for fighters. Many of which will lose out on comped training, etc. due to the ban. How in the world could this be a step in the right direction? Are condoms not &#8220;main stream&#8221; enough? If not, shouldn&#8217;t they be? Did you know that this just happens to be AIDS awareness month? They can give out condoms at High Schools, but sponsoring professional fighters is bad? In my opinion, its articles and writers/fans like this that help keep the sport of MMA from progressing further. Bud Light can sponsor events, but god forbid a condom retailer from doing the same for fighters.</p>
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