MMA Gospel - Brock Lesnar and the Top Four UFC Heavyweights Fedor Emelianenko is Ducking in Strikeforce

ha ha ha

Brock would beat Fedor? Are you serious? Do you even watch MMA, other than UFC? Do you even watch MMA or do you still stick with WWE? Dude, you are so out of touch with reality. Name one fighter, in his prime, that Brock has beaten. I’ll answer for you. None. And out of his four UFC fights he lost one. Fedor…31-1-1. It is funny how you think size matters when it comes to Fedor. You think that Brock being bigger gives him a huge advantage? Please. Fedor just TKOed Rogers, who, if you don’t know, it just as big and strong as Brock. Didn’t help him much huh? Start watching MMA and get familiarized with the fighters before you write this crap. You are an embarrassment to sports writing.

ha ha ha
please tell me Mr josh
compare with fedor records and others (lebsner,cain,carwin)
lesner only beat old randy and health and over hype Mir and another koreian guy

what abt cain
he only beat legit figher kongo
what abt carwin
he only beat legit fighter gonzaliz

so what abt Fedor man?
can u compare with above mention guys with fedor

You say Fedor has only beaten fighters that have been beating by others well that is a lie take for instance his latest fight they had 10 win record only one loss,

Fedor is the greatest fighter Ever, you have no proof he is not.

You bring up some points that make sense but there is a big flaw in your article/argument-Fedor isn’t concerned about his image, or as you put it, “Fedor is a great fighter, fighting mediocre fighters in an attempt to maintain his hype and sell his name.”

Fedor does very little to hype his own fights, he hates interviews and gives very vanilla answers when he does speak to the media. He makes no attempt to speak English (see Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida) and lives a very modest life. The reason why he didn’t sign with the UFC was UFC’s refusal to co-promote. Fedor came out this week saying he’d fight Brock Lesnar for free if the UFC would agree to it. Three five minute rounds in either a cage or a ring. That doesn’t sound like someone who is fighting only to get rich.

I agree with your point that heavyweights are getting bigger and stronger, just like athletes in other sports, but that doesn’t mean that diminishes their accomplishments. Babe Ruth hardly had the physique of an Albert Pujols, but the Babe is still considered one of the best players ever.

Just another person promoting the UFC, Trying to put fedor down because he is not in it, If he was in it the article above would be completely different or most likely not even wrote.

Thanks for the laugh

You’re a moron! Clearly you have no common sense so why not save time and stop writing stupid articles like this!

Brock Lesnar is a jock. Fedor will make a girl out of Lesnar in the 1st round. Fedors is # 1 in MMA, no one else has the same record. UFC just mad, and talking crap because they can’t get Fedor. But why would UFC always talk about Feodr and nobody else, maybe he is the best, huh??? Make sense, right???

The ignorance by the article writer is hilarious. Let’s tear his baseless and pathetic points one by one.

“Each one of the fighters that Fedor has faced and defeated have been defeated by other fighters just the same, and yet those victorious fighters aren’t touted as the greatest ever. Fedor has not faced the super athletes of today and proven that he can keep up with the evolution of the sport. ”

This makes no sense whatsoever. Yes, of course the fighters he’s faced have been defeated before. What is your point? Nog was 19-1 in his career going against Fedor, and on a 13-0 winning streak. He was the Pride champion and best in the world (Nog is still among the greatest). Fedor totally demolished him and controlled the entire fight. He won every single round. Then, Nog went on a 5-0 streak and faced Fedor again. Once more, Fedor clearly won.

He faced Crocop at his face prime (NOTHING compared to what Crocop is now). Crocop was 16-2 in his career and was on a 7 match winning streak against great fighters like Coleman and Josh Barnett. Fedor beat Crocop at his own game.

Now, let’s say we forget Fedor’s overall impressive record against great opponents and just pick the last few opponents he’s had…

Slyvia was just coming out of being UFC champ a year prior
Arlovski was ranked very highly at the time he faced Fedor and is also former UFC champ
Fedor was going to fight Josh Barnett until Josh tested positive for steroids and wasn’t able to make it
And Brett Rogers who is currently ranked top 10 HW and was on a 10-0 record with many KOs leading up to the fight (the same credibility Velasquez and Carwin currently have)

How is this not relatively good competition? I am taking a look at the last few fights of a few heavyweights in the UFC and none of them look that great. Lesnar’s is debateable as stated earlier. Who else does Fedor have in the UFC HW division to be scared of? Mir? (LOL) Noguiera? (who he has beaten decisively twice at his prime) Herring? Velasquez? Carwin? Randy?

Here’s where the hypocrisy comes in. Velasquez and Carwin? Yes, they have impressive records, but they really haven’t faced any quality or top fighters. Why make the argument that Fedor is fighting a nobody in Brett Rogers (who had been 10-0 and KOing everyone), and then turn around and say Velasquez and Carwin would decimate Fedor? We’ll see how Velasquez deals with Nog and Carwin with Lesnar. Once they both start facing quality opposition consistently (and winning, like Fedor), then we’ll talk. Otherwise, stay consistent with your arguments.

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume this is a joke article.

Josh Great post. You are 100% correct fedor is cementing is legacy thats why he singed with strikeforce. M-1 wants to keep fedor the big fish is a small pond. I was a fan of fedor’s untill i finaly relized M-1 is full of BS. All the fedor lover need to stop for two seconds and understand what josh is saying is true.. M-1 keeps feding fedor inferior fighter to keep his record and his # 1 ranking. Why do you think he didn’t sign with the UFC? No for the reason thye gave. M-1 is a dirty company go ask Affliction if they want to do bussiness with M-1 again.. Get off your fedor soap box and stop letting your un natural love for fedor blind you from seeing the truth. All you people bashing the UFC remember with out The UFC we would not be having this conversation or watching Fedor fight on CBS.

Who are you? Do yourself a favor and stop making a fool out of yourself! You’re a moron!

Fedor beating Brett Rogers isn’t valid argument if you are comparing Rogers to the likes of far superior wrestlers. Rogers not only took Fedor down, but landed a few shots. Rogers has no background, and still took him down.

UFC promoter? I call it like I see it. Right now the UFC has a new breed of heavyweights that are freak super athletes. What would Fedor do if Lesnar, a National Champion wrestler, took him down and laid on him? Lesnar’s last active training log that I saw had him at over 300lbs, can Fedor deal with a top notch wrestler that has a 50+ pound advantage?

Get the facts straight, Fedor never said he would fight anyone. Remember, like you said he doesn’t speak to the press. His handlers said he would fight anyone. For free. If all he wanted was competition, co-promotion wouldn’t have been an issue.

Guys Fedor beat Brett Rogers. If Rogers one, would we be here talking about how amazing Rogers talent is? My guess is, it would go something closer to Rogers is still a joke and Fedor had an off night.

I think everyone missed where I said I agree he is a great fighter, but he isn’t the greatest.
With the sheer evolution of the sport, how can anyone (in this adolescent phase) be the greatest ever? 10 years ago Royce Gracie was unstoppable, and the best ever, until Hughes beat him then he was no one.
What happens when Fedor loses a few? On to another “greatest fighter ever”?

The bottom line is, until there are unified belts, we will never know who the best of class is.

If you want to discuss this with me, I will be live in the chat room during MMAGospel.com radio show. Listen live and join us in the chat room at http://www.blogtalkradio.com/mmagospel Saturday between 6:00 and 8:00 PM.

I feel bad that you actually spent time to write this misguided article. Shane Carwin is going to knockout fedor? Shane Carwin? How is it that someone who actually seems to watch the fights and know all the fighters has such a poor concept of the sport? I’m sorry, but this article discredits you from any further opinions you may have on MMA in the future.

MMApunk, instead of just saying, “omg Fedor is facing inferior fighters” and “Get off your fedor soap box”, why don’t you actually try to back up what you’re saying with some facts?

Like I said in my previous post, how are Veslasquez (7-0) and Carwin (11-0) people who could decimate Fedor and are actually competition, while Rogers (10-0) with many KOs to boot) not? If the basis of his argument is that you have to face proven fighters that are good (or ranked opponents), then how is Rogers not competition? He was ranked top 10 Heavyweights by many different sources. Velasquez and Carwin have NOT faced quality opponents. Josh, your latest post should try addressing my arguments. Take a GOOD look at the opponents they’ve beat, fighters who are nobodies who have not managed to beat any superior opponent. They have YET to prove themselves.

Again, you have to be consistent with your judgments. You cannot say Rogers is nothing, and then turn around and say Velasquez and Carwin would tear Fedor down. You have no basis for this. Like Rogers, they had good records and pounded on weak opponents who are not known for everything.

Ah I made quite a few typos in my last post. Typed that up real quick.

And my last line, I meant “who are not known for anything”.

At what minute in the fight did Rogers take Fedor down you fucking moron? He didn’t. Fedor was throwing him around like a rag doll and took him down both attempts.

TUF noobs like you are the absolute worst “MMA” fans on the planet because all you care about is UFC and believing everything Dana says. Pathetic. Please stop writing articles regarding MMA and go back to covering pro wrestling. Or just stick to UFC since you have no clue at all what you’re talking about. This is easily one of the worst articles I’ve ever read.

Cain and Carwin have far superior wrestling backgrounds.
Rogers, with little wrestling background at all, took Fedor down and held him there. Imagine what will happen when Lesnar, Carwin or Cain do the same.

If I remember right Carwin holds an undefeated record, as well as wrestling credentials to boot, so in my opinion he is a more rounded threat than Rogers was. Carwin also has better conditioning.

My point is, Carwin has heavier hands (I have seen it, up close and personal) and a better wrestling base.

Cain, who is faster and a far better wrestler than Rogers, would pose a serious threat on the ground considering what Rogers did.

Again, Fedor is a great fighter, but his handlers are more concerned with making sure he stays on top. If he wasn’t on top, you would be defending someone else right now. It makes sure he makes money.

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And for the record, how is he ducking top competition? When they fought, Sylvia was ranked top 5, Arlovski was ranked #2, Barnett was ranked #2, Rogers #6 ( who I no doubt believe would smash these guys in UFC).

You’re an idiot.

this article is garbage and if someone really hired you then they should have there site taken off the net….how is rogers not legit? i havent seen a heavyweight with movement like him forever…most heavy’s stand right in front of u, he moves like u should…rogers didnt straight take him down either, i was there, they struggled and fedor took him down and rogers rolled over him, then as u say he landed blows, if u have ever watched fedor EVER, then u would know he allows opponents to do so, so he can set up an arm bar, and surprise he did and if it were not for the cage he would have succeeded….if u are going to continue to write ignorant articles with no actual fact info then go join dana so if the time comes for fedor to stomp out lesnar and the rest, we can laugh at u along with him

Youre just a beech ass kneega

Don’t ever write about Fedor again. You need to get your head checked first. Cain, Shane?Todd Duffee, Brendan Schaub Get out! You must be crazy. You’re comparing their skill set to Fedor’s and you can’t see how Fedor nullifies theirs?

Fighters.com needs to get some real writes in here instead of talking parrots and lemmings.

Great article, I agree with you completely, Fedor could be beat by all 3 of those fighters. Why are so many fans jealous of the UFC and their superior fighters. PRIDE is over, it is the UFC now, get over it and enjoy great fighters. Fedor stop ducking the top opponents and drop your horrible management team. It’s time to step up and fight the best!

You’re right, I should have said he was reversed, not taken down.

rob :
this article is garbage and if someone really hired you then they should have there site taken off the net….how is rogers not legit? i havent seen a heavyweight with movement like him forever…most heavy’s stand right in front of u, he moves like u should…rogers didnt straight take him down either, i was there, they struggled and fedor took him down and rogers rolled over him, then as u say he landed blows, if u have ever watched fedor EVER, then u would know he allows opponents to do so, so he can set up an arm bar, and surprise he did and if it were not for the cage he would have succeeded….if u are going to continue to write ignorant articles with no actual fact info then go join dana so if the time comes for fedor to stomp out lesnar and the rest, we can laugh at u along with him

@Josh Turner

Really he took Fedor down? Looked like they went down together and Fedor isntantly almost worked a submission. Then in a scramble Rogers got a mount. Whats more you said he held him there. Looked to me like he almost got armbarred within the first 5 second of being mounted after throwing short low percentage flurry at Fedor below.

Jesus. You don’t even know the difference between a take down and a reversal unless someone points it out to you (it was actually a sweep)? Did you just start watching yesterday? God how depressing it would be if you actually got paid to do this.

Somebody wants to work for Dana, kiss, kiss, kiss.

Fedor fought in pride and dominated,,notice how many fighters from Pride have come to the UFC,,he clearly was at the top of the top company and proved he ca do it anywhere,,plus what would the UFC be without the Pride fighters they hired,,lmao ,,the proof is in the pudding…

wow, you’re an absolute idiot. I really hope you don’t believe what you wrote…if so, please slice your wrist now as there is no upside in your life. Halilooyahhhhhhhhh to that brotha

UFC and their heavyweights are ducking Fedor. If they really wanted him they could have gotten him by offering him the money and contract that he wanted. UFC does not want Fedor because they are afraid he might easily wipe out the HW division than retire. They don’t allow fighters to retire with the title. Therefore since they don’t think Fedor is in a position to loose anytime soon especially to the weak UFC HW’s, they decided to give him a less than subtle offer they knew he would decline. UFC wants to wait a few more years until he’s older and more vulnerable to weaker competition. All the more, they are hoping he looses so he won’t go into UFC and hurt Lesnar and friends.

First off, Josh is the editorial writer for MMA Gospel Radio and is not only a fan of mixed martial arts but he is also a fighter. How many of you can say that?

I brought him on staff because he has a passion for the sport and no matter what anyone else thinks he writes what he feels.

Many believe the same thing as Josh. I am not one of them.

I would like to see Fedor fight in the UFC but only after facing Overeem.

I do not think Fedor is ducking anyone. I don’t believe M-1 is trying to keep his legacy in tact by giving him fights that are “easy”

I truly believe that M-1 has a great business model and they care about their bottom line and that is about it.

I would ask you to look at the Affliction contract Fedor had. M-1 made $1.2 mill from each fight while Fedor made $300,000 This is what M-1 is all about and do not forget Fedor owns 20% of M-1.

Troll article no doubt. Josh, go back to your “special Ed” kind of mma, you clearly have no clue. Btw, who is Todd Duffee? “MMA Gospel”?? haha, what a joke!

You stupid. Fedor fought Rodger who probably only possesses a portion of the strength Brock does. Plus Brock is a freakishly athletic Rodgers not. Brock fights at around 275 so lets be real fedor would get his ass kicked by brock, and shane carwin. Cain V. I’m not so sure about. The other 2 if the fights happen I’m putting thousands of dollars on brock and carwin.

does anyone remember when Kimbo commented on fighting Fedor , lmao look at im in TUF,,barely made it a round .

WOW HORRIBL article with obvious UFC bias

you name the curent rank of Sylvia and Arlovski but you dont mention what there rank was before the fight with Fedor

so his recent fights he had or should have look like this

Sylvia
Arlovski
Barnett (not his fault he was juicing)
Rogers
Overeem

yeah hes really ducking top competition ? \sarcasm

compared to Brock with

Heath
Mir
Randy
Mir
Carwin

also you knock fedor for struggling with Rogers when

Brock got tapped by Mir
Cain got rocked a few times by Kongo
Carwin is still untested and only has one win over a knowm HW (like Rogers)
Deffee, Schuab???? really? the fact that you mention them as beating Fedor show how little you know about MMA

your whole article FAILS

Who is this guy? talkin bad about fedor. fact is he is 31-1 and rightfully should be 30-0. name someone who has a record like that. The other guy i think is the best, or second best or whatever, anderson silva is 25-4 and i’ll even take away his loss from the DQ upkick of okami. and maybe even the heel hook he got caught in cause that was pretty much a one in a thousand chance that it worked, but it worked regardless.. but his win over forest, (which everyone could, or should have predicted) was amazing!! i thought “maybe forest stands a chance of landing a shot and upsetting him but highly doubtful. i was thinkin anderson ko round one. but i had no idea it would be such a one sided fight, in my opinion the most one sided fight i’ve seen. to get back to fedor, yeah he’s not in the ufc but he’s still got to be concidered the top heavyweight if not fighter. first off the guy is so loveable. second he’s taked out 4 ufc champs. sure they’ve all had losses to other people but how can you not give fedor props for never loosing? out of brocks whole ufc career half of his fights are with frank mir, and he lost half of those.. not to discredit brock i believe he is a phenomenal athlete and who knows maybe he could upset fedor.. but no one he has beat has been in their prime. fedor was at least able to finish heath hearing. and fedors ground and pound is alot meaner than brocks. I believe fedor is a better, more well rounded fighter than brock, cain or any other ufc top heavyweight. i think cain is more well rounded than brock however size does count and i think if they fought brock would controll him due to the size advantage and beat him. the heavyweight division would be a tough one to be in, bring anderson silva up to it and he would get crushed just because of the size difference, but would you say brock is better than anderson silva? no of course not, he’s bigger. but lets say fedor comes into the ufc. and he beats brock, even if he beats him convincingly, there will still be the people out there that say, “well brock has only had 5 fights, fedor isn’t the best untill he beats anderson”. the thing is fedor doesnt care about where he is ranked, he just likes to fight. he’s got to be the most humble fighter out there in any weight division. i mean the dude is 6ft 230lbs, hes a relatively small guy, i’m 6’5″ 245lbs and i control everyone at our gym just because of reach, size and strength. but i am by no means a better fighter than the lighter fighters. my record is 4-1 and i roll with a guy who is 205lbs and has a record of 12-0. he is much better than i am but out of the 2 yrs i’ve been training wiht him he’s only been able to submit me a handfull of times just because i can controll the the fight. so my point is you never know who will beat who in a fight, the big guy, if skilled has an advantage but the guy who handed me my loss was 6’2″ and weighd 240lbs but he was more skilled than i. and most times the more skilled, more well rounded fighter wins the fight. and thats why, in my opinion fedor would beat brock lesnar.. but everyone will lose one day if they keep fighting, fedor, anderson, everyone will make a mistake sometime and get caught or come out with the wrong game plan, or may be out matched. but that shouldnt dis-credit past performances. ali lost.. tyson lost.. floyd mayweather will probably loose one day too. but they are all concidered the best of their time. fedor is the best of ours..

This writer is doing an excellent job at getting people to read his article. Everyone, don’t take him seriously, he’s looking for a real job so he wants to get his name out there. best thing is, just ignore this guy and start your own website or go to more credible websites with writers who have actually seen decades of fights and can really analyze and have the experience to comment. would you argue with a 8 year old boywho says girls have couties. why waste your time. the more you write, the better he feels with the attention. the strongest assset the ufc has is dana white because he can make any junk fighter look like he has a chance and is credible. and yes, even anderson silva or gsp would be taken down by larger fighters because of the sheer size but if they pull out victories, they are still p4p up there. i wonder how much this writer got under the table from dana. another smart move mr. white.

@Duriel Fields
So your arguemment is that Brock and Carwin are Stronger and bigger so they’ll beat Fedor? If thats the key to beating Fedor he would have lost half of his fights, he is better standing and on the ground then both of those guys… they have better wrestling

the fights would be competitive but to think those guys are definite wins over fedor is stupid

You are missing the point, everthing is about copromotion, Fedor want to fight all of those you put down, so direct your staff against Dana who is afraid those fighters have no chance by being afraid to copromote,

Just read a post where another “idiot” wrote “Rogers was able to easily reverse Fedor, despite the fact that he’s not a very experienced grappler. The conventional wisdom was that if Fedor could get the fight to the ground he would be able to finish it quickly, but obviously that wasn’t the case.”
and
“At heavyweight when guys like Lesnar or Rogers get up as big as 265 at the weigh in and maybe 20lbs over that during fight time I really wonder if these gigantic super athletic guys with better grappling like Brock might be able to exploit that size advantage where Rogers couldn’t.”

Oh no there are more “idiots” out there, with no MMA background flapping their gums.

Quoted “idiot” = Joe Rogan, an obvious newcomer to MMA and commentary.

It’s always funny to me when “experts” such as yourselves make high level comments like “you’re a moron” and “wow, you’re an absolute idiot. I really hope you don’t believe what you wrote…if so, please slice your wrist now as there is no upside in your life.”

I guess it would be warranted if I headlined the article “Fedor fans are idiots.”

And still none of you have seen the part where is said he was a great fighter?
It’s funny that you all can say that every other fighter would loose to Fedor, but heavens collide if someone thinks Fedor can be beat.

What will you all say when he looses?

It doesn’t count?

The other fighter cheated?

The upside is, you all can rest well, Overeem couldn’t care less about fighting Fedor right now and we all know he won’t see any competition in Strikeforce.

For the record, and please quote me on this- I don’t call any MMA fan an idiot, no matter how long they have been a fan. I won’t criticize you on your opinions, as they are yours and you have them for a reason. I urge ALL of you to write or speak your minds, it’s your right and a freedom we all have and should use. It’s a freedom I fought for, and believe in.

Before you make “idiot” statements because someone disagrees with what you say, make sure you aren’t saying anything that others might see as an “idiot” statement.

Pakman- I don’t think I’ll be slicing my wrists over Fedor anytime soon, or any other fighter for that matter. I guess my family is the invisible upside to my life you didn’t see.

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Fedor is not the one ducking difficult fights. Brock is!!! To me it looks like he’s afraid of a loss against Shane Carwin!! Probably he took a six month off to steroid himself up!!! They should test his blood during this six months off period.

I have made several unsuccessful attempts to contact his camp.
They say his mono is really bad, but videos have surfaced of him doing pr work in the same time frame.

Carwin is the loser in this scenario, he is in a holding pattern until Lesnar straightens this out.

Abdel :
Fedor is not the one ducking difficult fights. Brock is!!! To me it looks like he’s afraid of a loss against Shane Carwin!! Probably he took a six month off to steroid himself up!!! They should test his blood during this six months off period.

Hahahaha! This article made me lol all the time. It was like reading a troll thread in sherdog but this one is for real.

Everything has already been said about the sheer ignorance of this piece. One thing though that you should all keep in your mind. Fedor has said in the past he doesn’t care for his legacy. Fedor cares only about his family, friends and religion. As ALL fighters he does MMA for money; he has said he looks it like a job. And because he is the best for like a decade now, he makes by far the most money of all fighters. He is so ahead of everyone he is the only one that is part of a company. He ain’t like all the other fighters, being fully-dependent on shitty promoters (Dana White), he CO-PROMOTES events meaning he doesn’t get f*cked by others, he f*cks others and gets what he’s due.

When you understand Fedor, you understand Mixed Martial Arts. Till that happens, keep watching UFC and thinking what Dana White says is the truth.

oh and to say cro cop was a can is rediculous now his record is 25-7-2 but when he fought fedor he was 16-2-2 and 12 of them were ko’s. the cool thing about fedor is, is he can beat people at their own game. put brock in with rogers, cro cop, arlovski, or even tim sylvia (who i think is a douche) but none the less. put brock in with any of those guys and tell him to keep it standing. what do you think would happen, he might be able to beat one of them, or two. maybe three if he’s got a little luck on his side, but fedor beat them all at their strengths. he also was able to go to the ground with nogueira on 3 seperate occasions without getting submitted. If i were fighting a guy like that i’d would deffinitly keep it standing but fedor was able and willing to take it to him on the ground if thats where the fight happened to go. same with coleman, randalman, lindland, and arona who are all known as ground fighters. cain obviously was not able to fight congo standing so he did the smart thing and took it to the ground because he has a huge advantage there. lets see cain beat congo at his strength. lets make brock fight anyone of those guys fedor beat i named in a stand up fight. Dont get me wrong i believe you have to fight smart and to your advantages, i wish fedor would just take those guys to the ground and pound them out, i wish he would stand up against people like nogueira, but he has been able to take the fight to the opponent wherever they want to take it. that is why i think he is the best. brock may be a better wrestler than he is but not a better fighter. GSP is the same way, he utilizes his strengths a little more than fedor, but i mean he beats all these wrestlers in wrestling and he can stand up with anyone in the welterweight division. he is a truly great fighter, just like fedor.

You write a whole lot for somebody who has absolutely no valid points or common sense……..

I can defeat Fedor, Lesnar, and Monson at the same time. Thanks

This is the first time I get into this site, and will be the last one, This moron is the most UFC bias idiot in the whole freaking world… Talking crap about AA, Rogers, but calling SUPER ATHLETES Carwin, Velazquez and Brock… Brock might be a super athlete, but Carwin is a hard puncher and Cain is a yonger version of coleman…

Reverend Turk: If this website is a hobby you do to kill some time, cool. If you take it seriously, you have once again proved to me that the majority of American MMA fans are tuf meatheads. I’m glad that Josh is a fighter. That doesn’t make up for the fact that he is a lousy writer. Fighting and writing usually don’t go hand in hand. Do you think he is the only one on here that has a “passion for the sport” ? Regardless, this is the first and last time I visit this site. Thank you.

Josh Turner: After reading your opinion -that Royce is a “nobody” since losing to Hughes- I find it hard to believe that you are a fighter. I feel that someone with a real passion for this sport -let alone a warrior who actually risks his life in a cage or ring- would view a pioneer such as Royce with a little more reverance. I hope you are a better fighter than writer.

Scrimps and HelloThere: Great points. I agree.

I believe Fedor is not the only one involved in his career decisions. It’s hard to arque with a mass of people who are new to this sport and who only know the UFC. While Dana and the Fertittas have done a great job in marketing the sport, there is a great deal of history pre-tuf.

The only person in the world who I believe would give Fedor a good match is Brock Lesnar. His size and strength is nothing Fedor hasn’t seen before. But coupled with his speed and superb wrestling ability, makes Lesnar a good test for Fedor.

Fedor has shown an ability to keep cool and to never stop thinking during a fight. Something that cannot be said about any other fighter, EVER. I don’t think he’s ducking anybody. One day, the UFC is gonna have to treat their fighters a little better. I’m not saying they should get Mayweather money, but the gap between Mayweather and GSP has plenty of room for compromise.

This quote comes to mind: “The UFC wants to own the souls of it’s fighters.”

first off all , the proof that fedor is the greatest MMA fighter ever shown wen UFC give him a deal which is the best deal ever have been given in mma history thats proof number 1 , 2nd proof he did not accepted plus Rogers has 10-1 wins brock has only 3-1 plz tell me how do you think is better at this time

I’m not gay.

@Dan Holiday
get your lover fedor to step up to the challenge then pal- brock would smash him!

They should organise a strikeforce/UFC/Dream tournament.. The ‘world cup’ of fighting.

fedor fights for pride and love of the sport. he is not concerned with the biggest mma contract ever. he wants to be a good human being and wants to represent his country and his people well. he can careless if he is called the best mma fighter of all time, really. he approaches every fight with the same attitude regardless of the opponent. btw, m1 global ceo said that if anyone really wants to fight fedor (brock, shane, etc), all they have to do is get on the plane to russia, and he’ll fight them for free either in a ring or a cage. any takers?

Everyone is entitled to there own opinion i guess, but WOW! I’m glad Reverend Turk stepped in and stopped some of the blasphemy. I’ve been watching Fedor since the early days in Pride when barely anyone had ever heard of him over here. I’m not one of those blind band wagon fans who are all over his nuts because of his record and the hype. I want to see him fight in the UFC more than anything. Especially before he gets past his prime. It just makes me livid though when I hear all these Dana White, UFC nut hugging boner heads puke up all this verbal vomit about Fedor being scared to tarnish his record. The bottom line is YOU JUST DON’T KNOW for sure. You, nor I, can make an absolute statement about why Fedor is not fighting in the UFC. There are so many variables that it makes it impossible for anyone to come out and say, “this is why”. So just shut up please. The fact is the dude’s record is basically 31-0. I know he has the stupid cut loss, but that was bogus. Until someone legitimately takes him out, he cannot be denied. So all you haters need to stop hating and just figure out a way to get him to UFC. If he loses…..oh well. But, to speculate with such arrogance is just stupid. Have Dana just bend over and let M1 have their way with him so we can all enjoy watching the biggest MMA event in the history of the sport. My last point is the fact that for all the UFC fans that seem to hate on Fedor, why do the organizations top fighters when interviewed have nothing but respect and reverence for him. I’m not saying they all do, but GSP seems to think he is the best. Cain V. was singing his praises. Randy knew he was the best and that’s why he wanted to fight him. I really want to see Brock and him fight. I agree with the author that Brock is an athletic freak and feel that this would be a great match. I give Fedor a slight edge b/c of skill and experience though. Anyway….that’s my 2 cents!

fedor fights for pride and love of the sport. he is not concerned with the biggest mma contract ever. he wants to be a good human being and wants to represent his country and his people well. he can careless if he is called the best mma fighter of all time, really. he approaches every fight with the same attitude regardless of the opponent. btw, m1 global ceo said that if anyone really wants to fight fedor (brock, shane, etc), all they have to do is get on the plane to russia, and he’ll fight them for free either in a ring or a cage. any takers?

What’s wrong with you guys????? Brock won over two hundred fights in the WWE and most of the times he did it coming from behind in the third round. Fedor is a joke

@wil
I don’t think that any Gracie is a nobody, but the fickle public, and even newer MMA fans, don’t pay him a bit of respect.
This is a family that helped create the UFC, although not what it is today, and deserve a great deal of respect.
To question my fighting because of an article? That’s up to you.

The point i was trying to make was that Royce Gracie was a feared fighter. Hughes defeated him, and the masses passed him by and went to the next phenom.

This sport evolves at breakneck speeds, unfortunately most fan bases do not. Each day there is a new fighter that is the greatest, or going to beat everyone.

Apparently the only thing that should be mentioned with Fedor’s name is greatest, great isn’t good enough.
How much is the “EST” worth?

If you want to discuss this with me, I will be live in the chat room during MMAGospel.com radio show. Listen live and join us in the chat room at http://www.blogtalkradio.com/mmagospel Saturday between 6:00 and 8:00 PM.

Dana White should be fighting in the WWE, smack down contest

Yes, you are gay

fedor is to pure to join the ufc! where fights are fixed just like boxing! yes fedor is the best get over yourselves!whats wrong you dont like a quite respectable person like fedor! he is smarter,stronger and a better fighter than any of your idiots in the ufc,lesnar has no game he is a steriod freak and would lose quickly to fedor! everyone should be happy he cant be bought like they rest from pride which was a dream organization,which the pricks from the ufc destroyed! fedor is not only the best he is classy!see ya!

Fedor is ducking the best, it drives me mental that people still argue that he is the absolute best. i just cant see how he could even compete with the pace and power of brock, the stratergy of randy or even the ground game of mir.

people should just stop writing about fedor, he wont have a name to build then, we need to force his hand and get him in the UFC

@JoshTIsAMoron
you are so correct!

Who is Josh Torner?????????????????? You shouldn’t be allow to write this kind of crap.

I think unification of titles is a huge miss that we don’t have yet.
It needs to happen.

Abdel :
They should organise a strikeforce/UFC/Dream tournament.. The ‘world cup’ of fighting.

You’re gay, Josh. I think you have what I call UFC homo-erotic fever.

Sorry, putting Todd Duffee in your argument based on 1 7sec KO and probably never seeing any of his other fights is hilarious and shows how stupid your article is. Plus you’re saying he’s a creditable opponent and Rogers wasn’t? Brock would lose to Fedor, don’t you remember the Couture fight? He was controlling Brock who is way more HYPE than fedor. Velasquez is more of challenge for sure, but oh well Fedor might lose… He’s still the greatest fighter of the decade.

Please answer my question. Why do many of the UFC’s elite believe Fedor is the greatEST? A lot have implied it, GSP said it point blank. Why should we take your opinion over GSP’s Josh?

One of the things that I love about this sport, and all of you, is the passion.

Although I question the way you may go about voicing your opinion, I love that every one of you has the passion. Keep it up, this is what makes MMA great!

Just as with anything in life, people are going to have opposing views, but the passion with which you defend your view is what is awesome.

Keep the comments coming!

If you want to discuss this with me, I will be live in the chat room during MMAGospel.com radio show. Listen live and join us in the chat room at http://www.blogtalkradio.com/mmagospel Saturday between 6:00 and 8:00 PM.

You don’t have to do anything.

I re-read my article just to make sure I didn’t tell anyone they had to take my opinion.

It’s my opinion. If you agree, cool. If not thats cool too!

Amin :
Please answer my question. Why do many of the UFC’s elite believe Fedor is the greatEST? A lot have implied it, GSP said it point blank. Why should we take your opinion over GSP’s Josh?

Someone said that UFC offered the best deal ever to Mr. Fedor, what was the deal about?

@Josh
Josh:

If when you say “masses”, you mean the bulk of tuf viewers, then you are correct. Your original statement about Royce sounded like you shared that point of view. I agree that Royce is one of the original pioneers. Without him, mma would probably not be where it is today.

The problem is those fickle masses you mention. American mma fans need to get educated. Only then will the fighters they cheer appreciate them. It’s kind of sad to hear Rampage and Dan Henderson say that they prefer Japanese fans over American fans. Too bad these guys can’t get the same love on their own soil. I was at the K-1 Dynamite show in Los Angeles when Royce fought Sakuraba. I was so pumped and into the fight when they were tied up against the ropes, only to have to endure the meatheads booing these legends. Kind of makes you feel bad for big name mma fighters. Dedicating so much of their lives fighting in small productions, working their way up the ranks. Only to finally have their dream come true and have to put up with these lame ass fans and mediocore paychecks (UFC). These guys deserve a little more. Think about where they’re gonna be when they reach 50. Or 65?

Finally!
Someone who gets it.

To be the greatest, you don’t have to be undefeated!
Fedor could lose 10 more and still be great, and he would gain the respect of many if he faced other greats… win, lose or draw.

And actually I have seen Duffee fight and train. His 7 second KO wasn’t nearly as impressive as he will be later in his career. Very powerful kid, and still a kid!

Bille :
Sorry, putting Todd Duffee in your argument based on 1 7sec KO and probably never seeing any of his other fights is hilarious and shows how stupid your article is. Plus you’re saying he’s a creditable opponent and Rogers wasn’t? Brock would lose to Fedor, don’t you remember the Couture fight? He was controlling Brock who is way more HYPE than fedor. Velasquez is more of challenge for sure, but oh well Fedor might lose… He’s still the greatest fighter of the decade.

your shits a joke right? hell id bet that brett rogers could beat brock. fedor over brock in the 1st submission. your statement holds no weight though mine doesnt either until they fight but look at their careers wow 4 whole wins thats not saying much. in the end experience trumps brute force

So the crux of the article is discrediting Fedor’s victories because other people have also fighters he’s fought (while overlooking the fact that Rogers has only lost to Fedor at this point).

Quality fighters Lesnar has beaten that no one else has beaten: 0
Quality fighters Carwin has beaten that no one else has beaten: 0
Quality fighters Velasquez has beaten that no one else has beaten: 0
Quality fighters Kongo has beaten that no one else has beaten: 0
Quality fighters Nog has beaten that no one else has beaten: 0
Quality fighters Gonzaga has beaten that no one else has beaten: 0
Quality fighters that Duffee has beaten (period): 0

Anyone seeing a trend here…?

This is among the poorest articles I’ve ever read, and that’s saying a lot because MMA journalists are, by and large, trash. It’s not that the author couldn’t be bothered to apply the criteria he deems key to the fighters he puffs up; instead, it’s that the author can’t do so because it would undermine his transparent troll attempt and force his hand.

In sum, the author and his stillbirth of an argument is terrible, but they have taught me a valuable lesson: fighters.com isn’t a place worth visiting. I’ll definitely keep it in mind.

Josh said:

“”Fedor is a great fighter, fighting mediocre fighters in an attempt to maintain his hype and sell his name.”"

Congratulations Josh, you wrote the worst article I ever read, anyway it is funny.jajajajaaja what a good Friday.

this is absurd, UFC hype machine underway
The absurdity of it is that no one would question him had he been american.
The crappy fox journalists are anti-fedor to fit their americocentric and thus biased views. And anyone who can get a press pass to the UFC is against because they wouldn’t get in otherwise. (See Sherdog if you don’t believe me)

@wil
I couldn’t agree more.

I was at UFC 104 and actually got really aggravated with the fans as they boo’d EVERYTHING, and as you may be able to tell it takes a lot to get my riled up LOL.
After 3 seconds in a clinch they were booing. It is unfortunate that our fans aren’t as educated as the Japanese fans, but think about how young the sport is as we know it today in American mainstream.
The sport is maturing faster than the fans in the US. If you have the chance to go to an event overseas, GO! It’s awesome! The fighters are treated like they should be.

Isn’t it scary to think of how short these guys’ careers are, and how under payed they are for what they do (mainly UFC). I can’t wait until we have mature audiences, unified titles, mainstream acceptance, and athletes that are respected and taken care of! I onl y hope I get to see it, not just my kids.
And congrats on getting to see an awesome bout! I’m jealous!

I know we don’t have to take your opinion. I respect, but disagree with your opinion. My point is, and I mean no offense here. I would tend to trust the opinion of a established, respected, and elite fighter like GSP over yours. I also think that for all those who say Fedor is 2nd rate compared to the heavy weights atop UFC, they should google what the organizations top fighters(Penn, GSP, Cain, Randy) have said about Emelianenko. It just kind of pisses me off when keyboard warriors are making claims that their own UFC’s best totally disagree with. It’s comical.

This writer is being simplistic… Let’s compare Fedor and Brock. Fedor has 32 fights to his name with only one dubious “loss”. Brock has only had 5 fights and quite frankly his only performance that really impressed me was his beatdown of Frank Mir. In his fight against a 95 year old Couture he was completely out of ideas before landing a lucky punch. Just on experience alone I say Fedor takes this fight without much of a struggle. Brock is overhyped and I feel certain Carwin will knock him out. Fedor has consistently beaten everybody he has fought over 9 years while Brock had one truly dominant victory yet supposedly Fedor is the one who hasn’t proven himself? Nonsense!

HAHA “keyboard warriors”
I like it!

Amin :
I know we don’t have to take your opinion. I respect, but disagree with your opinion. My point is, and I mean no offense here. I would tend to trust the opinion of a established, respected, and elite fighter like GSP over yours. I also think that for all those who say Fedor is 2nd rate compared to the heavy weights atop UFC, they should google what the organizations top fighters(Penn, GSP, Cain, Randy) have said about Emelianenko. It just kind of pisses me off when keyboard warriors are making claims that their own UFC’s best totally disagree with. It’s comical.

@mma
Fedor already agreed to fight anyone Dana wants him to. The problem is, Dana does not want to agree to his terms. Dana wants to make all of the money and keep it for himself. If Dana truly wanted to see Fedor fight Brock, all he would have to do is agree to the terms. I even read an article today that said Fedor would fight Brock for free, as long as Brock fought him in Russia and that Fedor got the viewing rights for the match. Brock is afraid. He is afraid of Fedor and he afraid of Carwin.

@Kalle Persson

MMA Gospel is a joke huh? How about take the time to listen to my show before speaking on a subject you know nothing about.

@wil

Will, this is not my site per say. MMA Gospe Radio is my show and it is not a hobby. You can do a search here for MMA Gospel Radio and read my background if you would like.

I have been watching mma since the first UFC and evolved right along with the sport.

I am as far from a “tuf noob meat head’ as it gets.

I never compared fighting and writing. I was making a statement based on the comments thta Josh must not know anything about mma based on the article.

What Josh did was take an argument that was out there and picked one side to right about. He could have easily written about the other side of the coin.

You, Sir, Josh, are a complete and utter joker. The entire article is nothing but a farce. Fedor is an amazing fighter and for you to show a total lack of respect – you’re nothing but a joke. If Lesnar is so great and wants to prove he’s the best – he could always come over to strikeforce. I have no time for stupid people like you. Get in the ring yourself and comment.

Woowwwwww, obviously this righter is retarded and knows nothing about MMA. Fedor is the greatest fighter EVER. He has totally dismantled everyone that was in the ring with him. He would know out Brock in the first round, Brock is just as big as Brett Rogers and Brett got dropped like a baby. I bet you this righter is on the Dana White payroll. Every other MMA website and TV show and Magazine have Fedor as the #1 fighter. This righter should find a new job, cause he definitely does not know his MMA.

MMA portals should BAN TUF-noobs such as the author of this text to publish their idiocies. This article was perfect for a good laugh: no arguments whatsoever and a public display of MMA ignorance.
Author: go do another job.

I can say this writer is a shlock or I can speculate, but probably I can say that with more certaintly then he can say that Brock would defeat Fedor

In the article it said the greats should seek out the best and fight them. I disagree, it’s the contendors who should seek out and beat CHAMP. Brock is the one who needs to prove himself not Fedor. Oh, lets take a quick look at the rankings. The author neglected to mention Grim’s ranking, 5th (sherdog). Brocks oppenent Shane, 10th (sherdog). Brock is the one fighting cans, not Fedor. Oh and whats with this $hit about how Fedor can’t handle the new gen of big HWs? Uh, newsflash, Grim is like 6’5 280 with an 81″ reach, and Fedor KO’d him. Whoever wrote this garbage should do some reasearch.

Must be nice to be on the UFC payroll, eh Josh? I hope you’re on he payroll anyway,cause the only alternative is that you wrote this filth for free. That you’re that much of a flunky for free. The Gospel of Dana White according to the flunky Josh.

The vast majority of fighters out there all call Fedor the GOAT and yet some nobody writer who hasnt accomplished a fraction of what Fedor has, actually has the nerve to insult such a great man. Terrible.

I just heard an interview with Mike Brown on Wednesday and he not only said Fedor is the GOAT but that anyone who didn’t believe that either knew nothing about MMA or had ulterior motives.

What a joke.

Josh, sorry but you are SOOO WRONG. The guy has been #1 in his divison for 7 years…lol at this whole article, did you really just say he needs to fight Todd friggin Duffee, but say Rogers isn’t touted, yet he did the SAME thing Duffee did (although in 6 more seconds) against an actual FEARED striker in AA.

This article is the most uneducated piece of trash I have read in a while….

Fedor is OBVIOUSLY one of the greatest fighters on the planet maybe not #1 but its debatable, he also has 5 UFC champions on his resume, a PRIDE HW title belt (which at the time was WAY more respected then the UFC belt), beat the most decorated UFC champ in Sylvia (say what you want but the man held the strap 5x), Destroyed current UFC #2 contender in Nog, beat the #5 HW in the world in Rogers, and HASN’T LOST DECISIVELY EVER.

Sorry this is blatant bias….lol at duffee being a huge threat. Seriously there are 3 top p4p fighters right now, 3 all time greats in the making, a. silva, GSP, and Fedor, with BJ penn close behind. EVERY publication that publishes rankings has Fedor as the #1 HW in the world, the majority of fighters put Fedor as the best fighter on the planet, in fact Anderson in a recent interview said he would lose to Fedor, GSP said he is the best, and Penn said he is the best HW on the planet bar none.

To say the #1 has to go hunt the challengers is retarded. Brock needs to hunt Fedor not the other way around, go back to watching TUF and WWE…

Also Fedor said he would fight brock for free, all brock has to do is come to russia or set it up. So Fedor says I will fight Brock for free, yet he is ducking comp? LOL.

Complete and utter nonsense. I don’t think this writer has fallowed MMA for very long.

Reverend Turk,

If you’re looking for more passionate writers, throw me a line.

sbrigazzo@yahoo.com

Wow, this article is full of stupidity. I wont out-right say that Carwin and Velazquez wouldn’t stand a chance, but lets be realistic here. Neither of them present anything that Fedor has not seen before. He has defeated better wrestlers than both of them, better strikers than both of them, and as for the rest of their grappling, well, they’d be lost on their backs while Fedor gave them GnP from the hell. The biggest challenge Fedor would face against any UFC heavy would be Brock’s explosive athleticism. He has the fight know-how, superb grappling, precise striking and vodka fueled Russian rage to take out anything the UFC has to offer. I admit Brock versus Fedor would be interesting, but if Brock can’t take Fedor down (which he may or may not be able to do), Brock is getting pu on the canvas and then finished via sub or GnP, because we all know Brock’s stand up is slow and sloppy.

On another note, Shane Carwin and Brett Rogers are exactly the same. Both undefeated (prior to Rogers/Fedor) with only ONE win over a top 10 HW (Gonzaga/Arlovski). Carwin gets the wrestling advantage when compared to Rogers, but I doubt Carwin is a better wrestler than Coleman, Randleman, etc. Todd duffee has a KO record over TIM HAGUE, not even a top 50 HW, and someone most MMA fans have never heard of. Duffee presents no challenge to Fedor.

Again, to re-iterate: no body in the UFC’s heavyweight division presents a significant threat to Fedor with the exclusion of Brock, and only then because he is a phenomenal wrestler and would out-weigh Fedor by a good 50 pounds. When it comes to ring smarts, MMA striking, and MMA grappling, Fedor is by far the best and has proven it over and over again. Nobody likes to mention that Arlovski and Timmah were top 10 HWs at the time of their defeat. Everyone says Arlovski has a glass chin but he has only been KO’d 3 times, his other four losses were TKOs and a decision.

Also, Brock couldn’t finish Heath Herring, and we all know what Fedor did to HH.

Josh Turner, you should quit writing about MMA. You honestly seem to know very little about the sport. You’re entitled to your opinions, but you really need to think about what you’re saying before you post a ridiculous article like this.

It would be possible for Shane, Cain, or Brock to beat Fedor, but HIGHLY unlikely for Carwin and Velasquez, and unlikely for Brock. Right now I’d say the Demolition Man presents the most potent threat the the Last Emperor’s undefeated record, but if Alistair gets beaten by Fedor I believe Fedor will retire undefeated.

I hope some of you have been enlightened by this absurdly long response to Turner’s (pretty much) dumb thread.

I hope you didn’t get paid for this.

@Josh </

In contrast, I was at the first Pride show in LV (32, I think), and the crowd there was totally different. The energy at Thomas & Mack was crazy! Probably the closest thing we'll get to a Japanese show.

@Josh Turner

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but wow, you are so off base. You acctually believe Fedor is scared to face Lesnar? He was tossed around by Randy a 40+ year old recently dominated by Nog (crushed by mr.fear twice) and submitted by Frank Mir. Lesnar’s not a super athlete, he’s big with good wrestling, terrible stand up and no JJ, yes he can beat Fedor but Cro Cop in 2005 was way more dangerous then brock.

To the writer of this atrocious fighters.com article:

I am simply in disbelief at your complete lack of knowledge of MMA in general.

You truly sound like someone who has watched half a season of TUF and thinks they know enough to be a MMA journalist.

Please, don’t quit your day job. Stick to WWE where this type of atrocious ‘reporting’ belongs.

Lol you people are so stupid saying that fedor is dump not fighting in ufc they offered him 30 million but he refused because he knows if he wins thew more fights in strike force his price will go up until 50 by the way look how many people think that brock is the best just because he won like 4 fights against thew guys that fedor would finish them in the first round by the way dont forget that they guy who beet airlovski in 20 seconds by tko fedor beat him and what has brock has to say i would love to see him fight fedor and get knocked out and when say try and have revenge or maybe he will try some steroids before the fight coz i know he can talk shit for now because fedor hasnt singned the contact yet by the way who ever this person is saying that brock is the baddest man on the planet get a life okay because your just hating him by the way who good did brock fight i havent seen even one opponent that would match up to fedor that brock fighted against.

@Josh Turner
Wow, how much did Dana White pay you for this article? How can someone have so little knowledge of MMA and still have a job as an MMA sportswriter? You’re either a total hack, or a UFC lackey.

If Fedor isn’t the best Heavyweight right now, then who is? And if you say 4-1 Brock Lesnar, you fail again. The only person even close to Fedor’s record and list of top competition is Nogueira, and we know how that fight turned out…twice.

@wil
you’ve been to some great shows!!

I hope to see the day when fighters don’t feel pressured to knock someone out and can stick to a strategic game plan and not get boo’d.

Get a hold of me on twitter, so we can talk
/drivenmma

What does Dana white do? UFC is a brand name for mma and Dana job is to promote. What does Fedor do? His job is to fight and also a brand name and happens to be one of the most talked about MMA fighters in the world. Fedor’s asset is himself so he has done his job well. Why in the world would any real businessman lock himself into a contract with the UFC when the UFC will own you as a brand name and not allowed to use any of your fights to promote yourself after you leave. Do you think Fedor Emelianenko is that stupid? Do you think Microsoft want to sign their brand name and assets away to Apple? People are in business of fighting to win an make big bucks. Unfortunately, UFC smart enough make the biggest buck for itself and not the fighters. Just think about it, if UFC would easy up on the contracts like all the other MMA brands, than we wouldn’t be discussing this. One fight one contract. This would be the biggest payday of UFC, but they want to own Fedor.

Wow, they actually let you publish this huh?

How long have you been watching MMA?

How long have you been writing, and does this site actually pay you to write?

Interesting view!!

What does Dana white do? UFC is a brand name for mma and Dana job is to promote. What does Fedor do? His job is to fight and also a brand name and happens to be one of the most talked about MMA fighters in the world. Fedor’s asset is himself so he has done his job well. Why in the world would any real businessman lock himself into a contract with the UFC when the UFC will own you as a brand name and not allowed to use any of your fights to promote yourself after you leave. Do you think Fedor Emelianenko is that stupid? Do you think Microsoft want to sign their brand name and assets away to Apple? People are in business of fighting to win an make big bucks. Unfortunately, UFC is business make the biggest buck for itself and not the fighters.

mma :@Dan Holiday get your lover fedor to step up to the challenge then pal- brock would smash him!

Actually M-1 just extended an offer to fly Brock to Russia and do the fight for free! I doubt Dana will accept though…. lol

Woooooooow…. i actually puked in my mouth reading this crap… sir set the crack pipe down, step away from your computer and take dana’s dick out of your mouth. Fedor has beaten more UFC champs than anyone, he also beat Nogueira and CroCop in their prime, if thats not the best what is? brock lesnar who beat an old Couture a mediocore Herring? a glass chin in Mir whom he is 1-1 with…. Carwin who never faught anyone with a name? c’mon man this was the worst article EVER written. you should be embarrassed.

Is he the greatest MMA fighter ever? Yes

Has he faced and beaten the best in the game? Yes- wins over the best HW’s in their prime.

@josh turner,
you are fucking ignorant, close-minded, biased peon. why dont you watch mma for more than a few weeks before you publicly announce such a claim. your argument is so flawed and erroneous it is laughable. it resembles the work of a middle school child whose writing is his avenue for unleashing hate and anguish. moreover, the child has no knowledge of unbiased journalism just like you. additionally, you lack any sort of ethos, which is preposterous if you are an alleged article writer. take your atrocious article and do the following: select it on your computer and permanently delete it by putting it in your recycle bin and emptying it; then stuff all hard copies in a paper shredder. if you are too sentimental about your article, then store it in microsoft word and do not show it to anyone except your family, even then you are taking chances

Reverend Turk of MMA Gospel Radio :First off, Josh is the editorial writer for MMA Gospel Radio and is not only a fan of mixed martial arts but he is also a fighter. How many of you can say that?
I brought him on staff because he has a passion for the sport and no matter what anyone else thinks he writes what he feels.
Many believe the same thing as Josh. I am not one of them.
I would like to see Fedor fight in the UFC but only after facing Overeem.
I do not think Fedor is ducking anyone. I don’t believe M-1 is trying to keep his legacy in tact by giving him fights that are “easy”
I truly believe that M-1 has a great business model and they care about their bottom line and that is about it.
I would ask you to look at the Affliction contract Fedor had. M-1 made $1.2 mill from each fight while Fedor made $300,000 This is what M-1 is all about and do not forget Fedor owns 20% of M-1.

Hes the f#cking editor? You have got to be kidding me? Who in the hell hired him for that job? We are in a recession…surely you could find someone that can actually put together a decent paragraph? “Fedor this. Fedor that. Fedor here. Fedor there.” Choose an editor that knows how to use a pronoun every once in awhile. If this is your editor…you really screwed up. You have just turned away at least 60% of your target audience with this piece of crap. I figured he was a new journalist, and that at the very least your site would pay someone else to write some sort of a rebuttal…but now you tell me this guy is the editor?

WTF?

I’m guessing that your article is just designed to annoy people in order to gain attention – ‘shock jock’ tactics. Well, I suppose it worked. I hope for your sake that you aren’t a serious journalist.

I’ve listened over the years to who Fedor is ‘ducking’ – recently he was ironically supposed to be ducking Brett Rogers, but we saw how that went. People also said that Fedor was ducking Tim Sylvia and Arlovski, and he made both look like pushovers. Couture couldn’t do that to Sylvia, when Sylvia had a back injury. Now he’s ducking Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez?? Who has Carwin beaten, other than Gonzaga? Who has Velasquez beaten, other than Rothwell and Kongo on short notice?

If Fedor hasn’t faced the best in the game, then who on earth is the best? There’s always going to be up and comers; I’m sure Fedor’s never heard of Brendan Shaub or Todd Duffee. You must be crazy to list any of these unproven fighters as better than Nog, CroCop, Sylvia, or Arlovski!

Lesnar would be an intriguing fight, but you are either stubbornly ignorant or deliberately erroneous when you say that Fedor is ducking him. You are also wrong when you claim that Overeem doesn’t want to fight Fedor, when he’s already gone on record as wanting that fight in April 2010.

brock lesnar had ONLY 5 fights?and lost 1 allready.how can u put this unexpirienced fighter with the best in the world?

Will I have to remind the author Feydor destroyed not 1 but 2 ex UFC champions!!
Also the comment about Brett Rogers being a mediocre ex tyre changer by Dana, my answer to that is Dana how big of a TV screen do I need to put in front of you to show you how fast this man destroyed you ex UFC champ Arlovski. Also to the author, I think you need to do your research first then write! Fedor has invited Brock or for that matter any UFC jock to Russia to fight, for free!
Of course Dana does not want that, cause he’s not going to get any money.

only andy or frank can fight with fedor on the same level,rest fighters have no chance.velascuez,werdum,lesnar,overdeem or what ever – no chance it all.even rogers with his 10-0 had no chance.

This is a silly article. I can’t even take it seriously. It’s easy to point out how someone could easily pick apart someone else and make it sound feasible, but knowledgable mma fans and experts will see right through this ridiculous article.

Andrew Rai :
Will I have to remind the author Feydor destroyed not 1 but 2 ex UFC champions!!

Try five former UFC HW champions. Fedor DID start fighting before the Sylvia, fyi.

i do believe that a good wrestler, with submission defense and good boxing could pose a threat to fedor (barnett, a younger couture, arlovski)

and i do think that todays wrestler is more evolved than yesterdays great wrestling based fighters.. (ie lesnar, carwin over coleman or randleman) but i dont believe that todays wrestlers are better just based solely on their wrestling credentials.. i believe it is because of jujitsu, judo, etc.. that make them better mixed martial artists

but honestly i dont think that makes much more of a difference against someone like fedor. wrestlers have always been susceptible to good jujitsu or submission specialists, and i dont think a couple years of jujitsu learning can make a wrestler completely superior to the ground game of someone like fedor.

i dont think the takedown defense of any wrestler matters much when you get knocked by one of the most powerful knockout artists in the sport. sambo’s casting punch is very effective when you punch as hard as fedor does

That article made some sense, but the fact that they left out M-1′s role in the negotiating just makes this guy seem like a biased amateur. I can agree that some of the HW’s in the UFC could give Fedor problems, but I wouldnt go as far as to presume that Fedor just wants easier fights. He’s fought the scariest fighters in their prime and has beat them all, who’s this man to say that he’s afraid? I do believe that Fedor will be beaten in the UFC one day, it’s just a matter of time. Expect a very heavy, top-calibur wrestler to do the job.

I also really dislike how he tries to discredit Fedor’s win by saying that other fighters have beaten his opponents…BUT NOBODY has these names on their resume: Andrei Arlovski, Tim Sylvia, Mirko Cro Cop, Antonio Noguiera, Heath Herring, Brett Rogers. NO other fighter has these names in their win column. This guy can’t even write a decent article that doesnt reek of unprofessionalism, I thought I was reading another topic here on Sherdog. Hope this guy gets fired for being a talentless moron.

I still believe that most here are missing the point and not reading the comments before posting.

Josh took one side of a typical mma argument and wrote about it. Josh agrees that Fedor is an amazing fighter.

Many people I have talked to that are journalists on other sites feel that Fedor not coming to the UFC is a direct result of trying to garner more money and rack up more wins against the outcasted UFC fighters.

Right or wrong, the article did make a splash and in the end it was an opinion piece that Josh kept his personal preferences and feelings out of.

I invite all of you to come and listen to the show Saturday from 6-8 PM EST at http://www.blogtalkradio.com/mmagospel

Josh may not be able to make due to a recent family emergency but feel free to stop by, listen and call in if you feel the need.

MMA Gospel Radio and Fighters.com is here for you, the fans of mixed martial arts

to the author,i have all 33 fedor’s fights,yes there is 33 not 32,so if u wana have a look i can send it for u and may be than u get some imagination about MMA and why fedor is the best in the world

Just to put it into perspective for this braindead hack of a writer…

There is only ONE fighter that has beaten:

5 different X UFC champions
Coleman
Randleman
Sylvia
Nog
Arlovski

4 kick boxing champions
Schilt
Hunt
Goodridge
HMC

6 different MMA champions
Coleman
Randleman
Sylvia
Nog
Goodridge
Arlovski

2 silver olympic medalist
Lindland
Ogawa

1 ADCC open weight champion
Arona

Honorable mention
Mirko Crocop
3 time K-1 finalist
2005 GP finalist
2006 GP winner Post Fedor fight

There is only 1 fighter that has gone 30+ fights that has

- Never lost a decision.
- Never been sub’d
- Never been knocked out
- Never been knocked down

Only one fighter that has ever won 5 different mma championships.
- Wamma HW belt
- Pride HW belt
- Pride Grand Prix tournament
- Rings king of kings tournament
- Rings world class tournament

All while finishing 76% of his opponents.
A current 25 fight win streak
With 22 victories in the first round
4 victories in the first minute
12 victories in the first 2 minutes

No other fighter in all MMA has any where near the list of accomplishments.

You are a complete idiot; you are probably the biggest UFC nuthugger out there. Nothing against the UFC, but it doesn’t have all the best fighters in th world. There are many lightweights like alvarez, aoki and hansen that would easily be top 5 in the division in the UFC, middleweights like hector lombard, jacare and robbie lawler, lightheavyweights like gegard mousasi and melvin manhoef and heavyweights like antonio silva, khraitonov, overeem, monson, aleks emelianenko and Fedor who is the best heavyweight in the world.

The only heavweight that could give Fedor as solid fight would be Brock Lesnar; possibly Junior Dos Santos as well. Carwin is big and he has a powerful right hand, but he is slow and has no head movement with a huge buffalo head. Carwin would get KO’ed, he was losing to Gonzaga before landing that right hand; Fedor wouldn’t have any problems with him.

Velasquez is aggresive and is a strong wrestler but he has no striking power, and no submissions. He could probably make an exciting fight with Fedor, but Fedor would defnitley win. If Velasquez got rocked three times by Kongo, than Fedor would do the same except he has a better killer insitinct so he would finish Velasquez off. So another KO for Fedor.

JDS is a good striker, but I don’t think his ground game is solid enough to deal with Fedor. JDS trains with Big Nog, but we have seen what Fedor did to Big Nog.

Lesnar would actually make it an interesting fight. He is quick and powerful and he showed that he can do a decent job against submission fighters by beating Mir. He is still unproven though, most poeple determine how good he is by his potential rather than what he can currently do. He has shown glimpses of many great things, however he has not put it all together yet. He has a powerful right hand, but his striking is sloppy; if Mir and Couture can out strike Lesnar, than Fedor would demplish him in the stand up game.

Fedor can handle big fighters, he tossed Rogers around the cage a few times and Rogers weighs around 270 lbs. While it would be intersting to see Fedor in the UFC and there are probably a few exciting math ups to be made. saying that these fighters would dominate Fedor is ridiculous.

Also there is no proof that Fedor is ducking competition. He signed with Strikeforce because he is still under a 3-fight promotional deal with M-1 global; he fought Rogers, so there are two fights left. If he doesn’t resign with them than there will be no co-promotion issue which was the biggest issue in trying to sign Fedor.

@Josh Turner

Who the hell are you ? Do you amount to anything ? Your biggest accomplishment in life so far is just including the name Fedor in your blog. Your talking shit about a REAL fighter who does something other than sit around a computer an type up trash about someone who would smash you in person.

Fedor has nothing to prove to garbage net nerds like you or fighters. The BEST does not go around picking fights to prove he is the best. All those ufc bitches you named are the ones who should be trying to get a fight with Fedor, not the other way around. Its Dana White who does the shit talking not Fedor. Since when does a King step off his throne going around fighting people to prove he is superior, its the challengers who should come to him to prove they are in fact better. Step your MMA game up, simple minded ufc fan.

@Reverend Turk
Who wants to listen to people who clearly don’t know anything about MMA talk about it? Defend his article all you want, it just ruins your credibility as a knowledgeable MMA website.

“Many people I have talked to that are journalists on other sites feel that Fedor not coming to the UFC is a direct result of trying to garner more money and rack up more wins against the outcasted UFC fighters.”

Thats an uninformed opinion then. And I disagree with it to an extent. Money was not an issue with Fedor coming to the UFC, the insults slung by Dana were a bigger sticking point then anything, the ability to not co-promote was the 2nd.

The writers that state that must either have a boxing mentality or haven’t been watching anything other then UFC.

And to say UFC outcasts when AA CHOSE to leave the UFC. Dana said he wish he never left. Tim you might consider but if you look at it objectively he just lost a close fight to Nog for the TITLE. So I fail to see UFC outcasts as the correct term…its another bs excuse by UFC biased writers.

That said I love all MMA, UFC, DREAM, SF, SHOOTO, whatever…and I STRONGLY disagree with your “other side of the coin” and your “other journalist think that fedor blah blah” arguments for this piece, because its written like a hack job.

wow…. this is absolutely the worse artice i have ever READ. Dana please stop paying people to publish such crap. we know u have money and treat figheters like slaves but please dont pay people to compare lesnar vs emelianenoko or any other ufc fools. with ferdor If u want emelianenko go ge him, just offer a good contract but than again he will clean out your division, take the money and go back to russia. So for the time being, Dana, keep saying brock is a human freak of nature( who gets mono before fight) and keep acting like he is all that. Because if Fedor vs Brock happens, as we all saw in CBS, Fedor right hand will knockout your beast out cold. Brock will probably quit UFC and go back to WWE so Dana shuld be thankful he doesnt have(does not deserve) Fedor. Fedor for dana, means UFC is done!!

Serious journalists don’t troll, so if thats what you are attempting to be, you failed. Objectiveness is paramount, remember that.

Fedor IS the best fighter in the game. He has beaten the best in the game.

Nog fought Fedor three times between the ages of 27-28. Cro Cop was 30. I’m no expert, but I’d say they were closer to their primes then they are today.

Saying Hong Man Choi is a can, but Todd Duffee is a threat? Seriously? I’m no fan of the Techno Golliath, but I’d be willing to put money on him beating Duffee with the baby gloves on.

Carwin and Brock are legitimate supersized threats. Cain isn’t a giant sized heavyweight, and has a suspect chin, so he is less of a threat.

Brendan Schaub? Not for a few years. Oh, and while I believe that Schaub has a real shot at winning the show, Roy Nelson is the favorite (fact checking is your friend).

I am speculating here, but I think Alister’s desire to fight in Japan and avoid fighting in America could have something to do with bulking up 35 pounds while training for a sport that makes it easier to lose weight than gain it.

Speculation, but it makes more sense than your argument of a champion not seeing the guy that is arguably considered the greatest fighter on the planet as a viable contender.

I could pick your article apart all day, but my wife thinks you are borderline retarded, and I should feel sorry for you rather than humor you.

One last caveat though: If 10-0 with 10 stoppages Brett Rogers who had won his last fight against a guy who started 2009 ranked as the number 3 HW in the world is not anything to buzz about, then why was a 2-1 Brock Lesnar whose only big win a decision against Heath Herring (Who Fedor destroyed btw IN HIS PRIME) worth making a big deal about.

excuse me sir, but you say that Shane Carwin’s conditioning is better than Brett Rogers’? Brett has been to the 2nd rd, Shane Carwin hasn’t.

You say Rogers too down Fedor, who has NO wrestling background. Well, Shane Carwin was taken down by Gabe Gonzaga, who has NO wrestling background. What about Georges St. Pierre? He has NO wrestling background, yet he’s the best wrestler in MMA.

When Fedor was signed to fight Sylvia, they said he would lose… he didn’t. What about Arlovski? He knocked him out. They said Brett Rogers would beat Fedor.. he did not!

What more does this man have to prove?

People may not believe he is the p4p best fighter in the world, but he is without a doubt the #1 heavyweight in the world.

Try to watch MMA, sir, not just UFC.

I wrote an article a few months ago for Bleacher Report: Know Your Mixed Martial Arts Fan.

You are definitely number 2.

Stop drinking the UFC Kool Aid son.

Andrei was ranked 2 when he got ko’d by Fedor. Barnett was ranked 2 when he was supposed to fight fedor. Tim was ranked 4. Nog was ranked 2 when he fought Fedor, so was Cro Cop.

Hong Man Choi would murder Mir, Kongo, and Randy and most other UFC HWs.

Brett Rogers is like Carwin except he has a win over then ranked #2 Andre.

Fedor has beaten better wrestlers than Brock and better BJJ guys than Mir.

Looks and reads like a bitter forum rant

but its actual sports writing

hack.

Bitter UFC guy.

Dear Josh Turner,

You seem in your article to show a pretty poor face of Fedor and of the opponents he has fought.

You describe the likes of Arlovski, Cro Cop and Nogueira as common fighters that already lost many fights, but you seem to forget that they have proved their talents and that they are best of the best in their categories.

You are saying that Fedor should fight some undefeated fighters, but who now is undefeated apart of Fedor?

Cain Velasquez? Who of the top fighters did Cain velasquez fight in his 7-0 records?

Brock Lesnar? Brock Lesnar is already defeated. On top of that he is a fighter that Mr. White brought to UFC in order to make his heavyweight championship more exciting. Brock Lesnar doesn’t have any good records and all his fights are more looking like WWE than UFC. Is that what UFC is heading towards? A new WWE?

The problem here is that you cannot accept that somebody is standing against the system as you know it. You probably cannot accept that anybody is standing against the imperialism. You are doing politics more than commenting fights.

Fedor doesn’t want to be a product of the American imperialism and doesn’t want to be made the new superstar of the UFC as it would go against his own freedom.

Give it some time and Fedor will fight the ones you wish he will lose against. He will fight the likes of Overeem, Lesnar and else…
Give it some time and Fedor will have his first defeat as all the other fighters.

The day it will happen you will be the first to burst into tears of joy. But remember, this is the destiny of all the fighters. Nobody is undefeated.

I don’t think that you will ever be happy anyway whoever Fedor is winning against.

To me he has proved that he is the best, not only in fighting but in his beliefs, in his way of life, in the way he is rejecting the system as you know it, in a way that he is undefeated and that it makes the likes of yours so full of rage.

Hail to Fedor! F… the imperialism!

J.

I’ve thought about this for awhile and I think the heavy weights over at ufc are ducking Fedor.

If the heavy weights at ufc wanna say they fought the best they better get over to strikeforce and take on Fedor.

I don’t blame Fedor for not signing with ufc, why give up your rights to Dana White when you can keep them.

Unreal!! Really??? Is he the greatest MMA fighter ever? H&ll yeah!

You seem to foget that he defeat 5 former UFC heavyweight champions.

Fedor is a William Wallace.

And at the end William Wallace loses, but he managed to change the system in his death, as Fedor will, as he will prove that UFC is not the only organisation and that UFC fighters aren’t the greatest…

J.

I love the ufc but I love fedor and i attended the event over the weekend and some russians sat behind me, and u realize all the pride that goes into Fedor…he’s not just someone tryin to be a bad ass or tryin to get money, its not about that, watch his training video’s, the guy is pure heart and class!!!! he’s that once in a every forever guy that comes into every sport and just dominates…hes the gretzsky, the jordan, the montana, the ruth or pujols whatever u wanna say. thats him….he has so much passion and joy in what he does…..have u ever seen him at the beginning when they do the “staredown”, he looks down, his opponents are intimidated every time whether or not they admit it….Brett Rogers is a stud, he would be right with the other heavyweights if in the ufc, the guy has great power, great movement for a big guy, and decent on the ground obviously….Fedor has again and again proved he’s the best, hes “almost” been beaten a million times, but every single time he pulls it out….he’s is rocky in russian form, not drago, those are just the ignorant comments one sided people make….bottom line is he is the GREATEST, and there should be no dispute whatsoever

What a pile of horse shit. So Fedor has to prove himself against a bunch of juiced up hype jobs to further cement a legacy that’s already cemented him as the greatest mma fighter of all time??? Those artifically enhanced muscle bound freaks aren’t fit to lace Fedor’s boots nevermind share a ring with him. Lesnar would go the same ways as that mouthy creep Buck Rogers. Fedor would snap Carwin’s arm in two. Velasquez would end up on his back in a semi-concious haze. As for Duffee. Who???? And Overeem has probably done more roids than the others combined. Fedor would knock the chinny Dutch freak spark out in 30 seconds. Fedor is light years above all of them. And guess what?? He didn’t need to inject his his Russian butt with performance enhancing drugs to get there.

Your article is insulting. I think it is a dishonor to accuse Fedor of ‘ducking’ anyone. There is another explanation that has been floated out there…he won’t sign a one-sided deal with the UFC. That isn’t the same as ‘ducking’ anyone. That is showing strength and standing up for what is right. Look at how the UFC cries and spreads garbage about any fighter that won’t sign with them. The UFC treats even it’s best fighters with little respect. Look at Couture, Rampage, Ortiz, Arlovski, et al. Fedor is actually leading the way for fighters to actually be treated with more respect. Fedor deserves respect. He is so much tougher than any coward like you would understand. What utter garbage. How cowardly and unfufilling it must be to sit and write trash about somebody that other people admire. Did you write this article as a favour to Dana White? Are you proud of yourself?

YEAH COME ON GUYS!!!

The ring is about of who is inside and not about the guys in suits that are trying to rule with their notes.

People are critisizing Fedor for fighting Rogers. Should I remind you that Rogers was a 10-0, having defeated Arlovski in 36sec. What if Fedor would have fought Velasquez? people would have said why is Fedor fighting such an unexperienced fighter? Why didn’t he fight a guy like Rogers that is much bigger than him!!!!

Your article dosnt make any senses Mr. Turner

J.

@kmeyers

Have you heard the show? I would imagine not because like most keyboard warriors you sit here thinking you are god’s gift to mma knowledge and no one knows more than you.

I am not defending his article. I disagree with it as I said earlier, but I guess you did not make it through all the comments.

Kmeyers, If you think you can do better then I suggest you start your own MMA radio show and see how it goes. Or better yet listen to MMA Gospel Radio before you make the decision that the show is awful and I know nothing about the sport.

also, feel free to follow me on twitter as I tweet during all the fights. /mmagospel

Listen you guys. Fedor did prove himself and beated the best.
But i honnestly think that brock may be the man to ever beat him.
Look at the first fught with Mark coleman in pride, he almost had him with that choke.
But he did the mistake to let go. He wqas dominating until he lost to submission.
Now this was a 40 year old Mark not in his prime in top of that and still did very good.
Brock lesnar folks. Is the new bigger, stronger, more stamina,better skilled version
of the prime Mark coleman. Go figure. Brock is the only man who has a chance with Fedor.
Maybe Carwin too. Brock is not experienced you guys say well he damaged Couture,Hearing
and he old school style destroyed Frank Mir. All these guys more experienced. Brock is a born champion. The guy runs with a log on a mountain. Brock is very sick. Do not underestimate him at all. Remember underdogs DO WIN FIGHTS.

@rob

Actually Fedor is not passionate about mixed martial arts. He has stated this numerous times. Fedor looks at mma as a job and no emotion is attached to it at all. He just works to do the best he can when it comes time to preform.

In the end all that matters is that he keeps stepping inside the cage/ring and allowing all fans of mma to watch a truly amazing athlete.

We are lucky to be able to watch him fight. Those mma fans ten years from now will still be talking about Fedor and how they wished they could have seen him fight live.

On a side not, I am not the owner or editor of this site. I run MMA Gosel Radio. We are the official voice of fighters.com and have partnered to bring more content to the readers of this site and for the listeners to my show.

He Tysen. Lesnar beated couture with strikes and he was standing plus he did a good stand up with Frank Mir (The guy who knocked Noguerra). First fight and the second. Yes he finished him off with ground and pound but did you see the punch he gived in the beginning.
Brock Lesnar is a complete fighter my friend.
All you anti brock lesnars do not know what your talking about. Its Lesnar winning by ground and pound until decision against Fedor or Fedor will win by a submission in the 3 round after he gets his ass pounded. Thats my opinion.

As an MMA journalist myself, I’m surprised and appalled to read this tripe. I truly hope you’re not paid for writing because it’s extremely damaging to the credibility of fighters.com having you on the staff.

@NIKO
Hey, I never said I know it all, or wanted to start my own radio show, or anything like that. You can try to put words in my mouth all you want. But it’s obvious that I know a lot more than this clown you have representing your website with this ridiculous article. It completely ruins your website’s credibility, and makes me not want to waste my time listening to anything you have to say about MMA.

You might want to seriously think about how this guy is representing your website. Besides writing a completely ridiculous article, he actually responded to someone, and told them to go slash their wrists. That’s REAL professional right there. It’s stuff like that, that turns your site from a reputable news source, into a joke with a bunch of “keyboard warriors” who don’t know anything about MMA just slinging insults, kind of forum…if anyone even keeps coming there.

That should have been directed at Reverend Turk, not NIKO

kmeyers :
@NIKO
Hey, I never said I know it all, or wanted to start my own radio show, or anything like that. You can try to put words in my mouth all you want. But it’s obvious that I know a lot more than this clown you have representing your website with this ridiculous article. It completely ruins your website’s credibility, and makes me not want to waste my time listening to anything you have to say about MMA.
You might want to seriously think about how this guy is representing your website. Besides writing a completely ridiculous article, he actually responded to someone, and told them to go slash their wrists. That’s REAL professional right there. It’s stuff like that, that turns your site from a reputable news source, into a joke with a bunch of “keyboard warriors” who don’t know anything about MMA just slinging insults, kind of forum…if anyone even keeps coming there.

hey you gotta admit, this article brought fighters.com a ton load of traffic. i had no idea this site existed until today, and besides this article, it really a pretty nice site

@Jay
Sure, it might be a pretty nice site. But if most people are getting directed here because of this terrible article, then that’s what people are going to stereotype this site as. Not to mention the complete lack of professionalism in telling someone to slash their wrists. I know after reading this article I had no interest in checking out this site further.

Let me start off with a simple analogy.

Let’s say you’ve been driving a great car on an off road track for many years. You know the track very well, and the car performs sublimely year after year. In fact, it seems to get better with age, sliding through turns, powering through straights and generally doing exactly what you want.

One day, out of the blue, someone offers you a massively powerful brand new muscle car. It’s a beast, a V12, with oodles of horsepower and twice the engine capacity of your old off road car. Would it be reasonable to expect that this car would perform better than your tried and tested off road car? I mean, it has a shiny new coat of paint, and a really expensive tag on it – it must be better right?

The logical answer is no. This monstrous V12 though powerful, would not perform better than the car designed and tested specifically for off road driving. Sure, you can say the muscle car is really powerful, really fast, and would do well in certain circumstances, but in order to say that it would defeat every car, in every situation is just plain ignorance.

The obvious comparison I’m drawing is that Fedor is much like the tried and tested off road car. And the off road track is akin to the sport of MMA. Fedor has been doing MMA for more than 10 years now. He’s been through a wealth of opponents and situations, and always pulled through. He has plenty of weaknesses, and makes mistakes like everyone else, but so far no one has been able to capitalize on them to pull off a victory.

Enter Lesnar, Carwin and Velasquez. These guys are like the V12 muscle car. They are all very powerful. They are new fighters, with new advantages. And the shiny coat of paint, and expensive tag they wear – is a lot like the UFC. Yet no matter how you want to look at these guys or how you hype them – they are largely unproven. Lesnar has had 5 fights. Carwin has had 11. Velasquez has had 7. Trying to sell it as “a fact” that they can beat Fedor, is just plain ignorant.

Sure, I believe these guys have a legitimate shot at beating Fedor. A lot of the heavyweights do. These guys are strong, and skilled, and they are a credible threat. But so is Fedor. Maybe you think he doesn’t deserve the moniker of “the greatest MMA fighter of all time” – which is fine. In fact, Fedor doesn’t think he deserves it either.

However, speaking plainly, Fedor has shown time and time again that he is a great fighter. He embodies the ideals of MMA. He looks like your average Joe, but his performances are as amazing as they are effective. Lesnar and Carwin look like the Hulk. Velasquez fights like Wolverine. These guys are marketable and part of the biggest MMA organization world-wide, which happens to have the best marketing machine.

You think that Brock, Carwin and the UFC heavy weight roster is “The Best”? You think Fedor hasn’t fought the best? I think you’ve got it the wrong way round. Brock and the likes haven’t fought “The Best”. They simply haven’t fought enough. They’ve only been doing MMA for 2 years or so.

When the world tunes in and watches the UFC, they see a company great at hype. It’s a company that gives the masses a great show. This is not to discredit the fighters, who are generally world class. It’s just that riding on hype alone, is not good for the sport of MMA.

The true genius a work here is Dana White. Getting us to discuss this is exactly what he wants. He is so successful; it’s actually one of the best and worst things that could happen to MMA. When Dana opens his mouth, it’s calculated. He swears and appears ‘tough’, street-wise, and nonchalant (occasionally) and knows that the young guys watching him are buying in to his words wholeheartedly. The problem with this is that people (mostly Americans) take words as “Gospel” far too easily without ever stopping to think.

So no matter how many Fedor detractors there are, the world will see the truth – because action is everything. Fedor is a man that is not only a great embodiment of MMA; he is a great example of how to be a man. Humble. Respectful. Thoughtful. Kind. These aren’t always great marketing tools, but they are some of the best traits one can define another human being with.

You are indeed an idiot. Now I entertain the notion that there is someone out there that can and will beat Fedor eventually. Everyone has their day at some point, that I can concede to. But I agree with everyone who’s calling you out in these comments. You are definitely on Dana’s payroll in one form or another. The funniest thing about Dana’s tactics to discredit the Russian is that the biggest effect they have is that it has become blatantly obvious that he is obsessed with signing Fedor and getting him to fight Brock and the rest of the UFC’s top heavyweights. I predict that a fight with Brock will never happen because Brock will be dethroned by Carwin in his next fight. Carwin has far superior stand-up and sufficient strength to stay on his feet and test Lesnar’s chin. But all this ripping on Fedor is absurd. I think Fedor has shady management and they’ve done him wrong. He should be in the UFC yes I agree. But he’s not ducking anyone nor has he ever. I would venture to guess if he left that management they’d probably murder him and his entire family because they’re Russian gangsters. But to even suggest that he isn’t still the premier heavyweight in the world is ridiculous. He’s beaten three opponents who were top-tier heavyweights (at the time they fought anyway) over the last year and a half. Get off it. Who has Brock beaten? An extremely tiny and over the hill Randy Couture and an absurdly overrated Frank Mir. When Brock fights Carwin and loses or fights Nog and get’s his arm armbarred off his body you’ll see you jackass. Additionally absurd amounts of MMA fighters and trainers when polled still say he’s the best including UFC poster boys BJ Penn and GSP. Get a life you monumental douchebag………

Miles Hackett :
As an MMA journalist myself, I’m surprised and appalled to read this tripe. I truly hope you’re not paid for writing because it’s extremely damaging to the credibility of fighters.com having you on the staff.

QFT

Dana? seriously though.. this is one of the worst articles, may as well be a troll on sherdog.

I wrote this a couple of days ago:

FEDOR HAS ALREADY BEATEN DANA WHITE WITHOUT EVEN KNOCKING OUT HIS CHAMPION.

Dana White has shown that he’s devolved from a fan, into a Don King. (And he’s got Fedor to blame.)

Over the past few years, promotions have came and went. Sold out or went out. But one thing is constant.
There is one man who does NOT SELL OUT.

A special human being that has had his character displayed by his actions. A man that humbly walks through this life without judging or belittling others for personal gain. Living a quiet, secluded life in a place most anybody would leave after a decent payday. Displaying human kindness and dignity anywhere he goes. And all the while maintaining widely recognized status as the number one man to beat on planet earth, in THE sport of the 21st century. Although he can be beat as any man can, he has earned his status and certainly not the disrespect of any true mixed martial arts fan.

It seems to me that Dana White started his legacy with good intentions, but his selfish childlike nature has become painfully evident when faced with the fact that there is good in the world. That is to say, there is a man who truely has no love of money. Yet to confront this “personal issue” he struggles with, he has resorted to personal attacks of others or other organizations, promotions, ect., for the purpose of baiting others into his war of immaturity. Instead of checking his pride at the door, and coming to terms with the possibility of co-existence, he has thrown the mma fan that was once inside him away to pursue the true intent of his heart………….power.

And the possibility of co-existing is not only possible, but ineveitable.
There is no way to control the opinions of true mma fans, no matter how rich and powerful you are Mr.White, and no matter how much media you control. That is because true mixed martial arts fans are what they are by every sense of those words. And to be more concerned with the obsurd domination of your organization over others, than the full fruition of the sport as a sport, reveals that from the beginning, your true motive which seemed to be love of game, has really all along been control. Although the vehicle for it was this exciting sport, it’s now clear that it doesn’t matter what your interests might have been, the results would have been the same.

But don’t worry Dana, because you aren’t the only one with this problem. Just the loudest. Thank your money for that. I can only hope that somewhere down the line, you give up fighting this fight in this way. You already have the success to be the brand of choice for awhile, and within/if not the top for the next decade. You did not get your success this way, it was oppurtunity, hard work, and dedication. None of those things are uncommon. It would be more beneficial in the long and short, to simply acknowledge the man named Fedor Emelianenko as a great fighter, and one you wished you could come to terms with but can’t.

And respond to critics of your champion vs. Fedor in this way : ” I guess we’ll never know, but maybe in the future we can come to terms, anyhting is possible”. I say this because lord knows, your not gonna get Fedor in your organization by showing him the respect you have so far, even though in most peoples eyes he’s earned more than you ever will.

You’ve alienated many of your champions and former champions and legends of this sport by your attitude and disrespect. At one point it would have been good to look back on your actions, and the spite or disrespect it earned you. From where I live, it looks like you will continue to devolve to the point where eventually, there will be no man left for you to respect.Your success as a man is not measured in money, and if you think it is, you’ve got even more issues. I can only hope that someday, this point of view gets relayed to you and you take it in and do something about it. At this point, apology’s will gain you more power and respect than anything else

Todd Duffee? who the d*ck is Todd Deffee? and Alistair Overeem “is so sure that he would defeat Fedor that he isn’t even concerned with fighting him” makes him an oh-so-superior fighter? Dana White talks tougher than that, and that doesn’t mean d*ck. and “how about” TUF people? Josh, they’re reality TV stars… like Chuck on “Beauty and the Geek” Season 1. And you’re denigrating Brett Rogers for changing tires at Sam’s? What qualifies as a respectable occupation to you, your highness? Brock Lesnar, who took wrestling classes in high school on Mama and Papa’s dime, paid his way through college on a wrestling scholarship, who’s only serious job ever was a stint in the WWE, and wasn’t good enough to make it on the Minnesota Vikings? You predicted all these Fedor fights. Let me predict two for you: 1) Nog beats Cain and 2) Nog beats winner of Brock/Shane. Then we’ll know: is Nog better than everyone else in the UFC? By definition, yes. Is Fedor better than Nog? 2-0 says “yes.”

DANA WHITE REACHED A NEW LOW, AND JOSH DONT BE A SELL OUT MEN THATS EVEN WORST, FOR RESPECT TO MMA YOU SHOULD RETURN THE MONEY YOU GOT FOR WRITING THAT.

I completely agree with the first comment. Who let this guy ever write. This is one site I’ll never go to for MMA info. Seems like an infomercial from the UFC. All these fools saying to be the best you have to be in the UFC need a slap in the head. Because look at the UFC current champions, most of them fought in other organizations and are fairly new to UFC. Does that mean they were no good until they came to the UFC. Also Lesnar is the most over hyped figher ever. He has yet to face a real challenger…he fought against a 46 year old Randy couture who hadn’t fought for nearly 2 years and looked out of shape and a Frank Mir, who only few years a go was on his way out of UFC and most likely fighting all together. As a fan I would love to see Fedor in the UFC, but there are plenty of good heavy weights for Fedor to fight in Strikeforce….As long as they can come to terms with Overeem and a Fedor fight, that would be far more interesting to me than a Lesnar Fedor fight. Overeem is the only MMA fighter to do so well in K-1 which makes him arguably the best striking heavy weight, who has a very solid ground game aswell, making him one of the top 3 heavy weights.

Hype machine? Fedor is the humblest pro in mixed martial arts. I think the only hype machine is you, pretending you know something while you talk trash.

I can’t believe I just wasted my time by reading this article by this crackhead that is probably getting payed $5 from Dana White to buy his crack. I can’t believe people can even compare Fedor with those UFC heavy weight fighters, he’s in a different level. I think even Brett Rogers can destroy Lesnar and Carwin. People forget that Lesnar is just a big wrestler with power and NO ground skills and NO experience.
I don’t understand how the person here in charge would let some idiot that doesn’t have a clue about MMA write this crap. I agree with kmeyer’s comment about you letting something like this turn your site from a reputable news source into a JOKE.
UFC bought PRIDE for a lot of money because they knew it would be nothing with PRIDE still around. PRIDE had the best fighters in the world and Fedor beat it’s best at their prime. But of course I bet Josh Turner don’t know shit about PRIDE.

wow, people are getting paid to write something like this? I’m not going to argue why Fedor is or is not the best, but if you’re going to match up fighters, at least do a better a job of comparing them. Lesnar’s going to win because he’s awesome isn’t going to cut it for any respectable publication. At least compare their strong and weak points and see who comes on top. Or at the very least, poke holes in Fedor’s abilities.

Honestly, I liked the Fedor vs Rogers match up. Rogers is big and strong and has proven that he can defeat just about anyone. In addition, Rogers is hungry for victory. To defeat him, you would have to either break his arm or leg or knock him out because he won’t stop coming at you with the intention of smashing your face in.

@wwe

Maybe he should go back and hide in WWE so won’t get hurt by Fedor.

Not even Dana White believes all the shit this idiot wrotte.

wow, what a piece crap this article is

And I forgot to add, Dana White is a egotistical bald creep. He acts like his turds don’t stink, but we (us involved in the actual combat side of MMA) all know they do. Real bad! I hope Fedor signs for his shitty org and one by one knocks all his roided up bum chums out cold, and then I hope he grabs Dana out of the crowd and drags him by his lapels into the octagon and gets him in an Americana and snaps his arms in two infront of that sassy young piece of strumpet Arianny Celeste. I pay a months wages to watch that.

LMAO You have absolutely no idea what your talking about, I was embarrassed to read this. Fedor is on a whole other level. This article is complete garbage and you sir should be fired for having no knowledge of mma. You sound exactly like Dana White. I hope every day that Fedor will just sign for one fight with UFC, embarras Lesnar and go back to strikeforce.

hey, such a dumb article,
there are reasons some people are successful and many reasons why they are not. call me if you want to talk about it 216-534-5405.

thanks, john

How does the U.F.C have the best fighters when a guy whos 4-1 is Champ already? tells me the real hype machine is the U.F.C, if Bas Rutten, Kevin Randleman, Randy Coulture, G.S.P, & god knows how many other mma fighters rank Fedor Number 1….then guess what? I think I do too, get off the hype machine you dumb fuck! U.F.C sucks balls!

had this journalist ever watched mma? It seems like he might have just started writing also.

Josh, first I must say that I disagree with your opinion on this topic, but I won’t go into detail arguing each point of your article, because most of the comments already made have done that (however tactlessly they’ve gone about it). I really just have one question for you. The crux of your article is that Fedor is not the greatest MMA fighter ever, nor has he beaten the best in the game… so who exactly is the greatest MMA fighter ever, in your estimation? And who HAS beaten the best in the game? The best way I can describe my anticipation of your response is, morbid curiosity.

I’m not opposed to the idea of people writing articles which may not paint Fedor in the best light, since he certainly has his flaws. However, I must say this article was quite poorly researched and written. Next time you try to undertake such a difficult task, a little eloquence would go a long way in trying to have your point received as intended on the other end.

Whenever someone needs attention, just talks crap about Fedor, well that guy is no exception.
There’s no reason for you guys to discuss this matter with him, you are not going to change his mind (lol @ mind) his case is closed, he is a) a fedor hater b) completely irrelevant with the sport .

How old are you anyway Josh Turner, 13 ? lol Go play with your WWE action figures and let us grown ups talk about mma.

i agree. fedor is a great technical fighter. a great athlete. but carwin and lesnar each have 60 lbs on him and are world class athletes with very little bodyfat. 60 lbs is a lot of weight. more than the difference between lightweight and light heavyweight. the sport has changed. it’s not the technical lifetime fighters who are great athletes always reigning anymore. some of these all star athletes are coming in and dominating the sport. especially the heavyweight division which is really too small. i imagine in a few years, there wont be anyone in the heavyweight division that walks around at much less than 250. someone m-1 exec said fedor would fight lesnar for free. if money doesn’t matter to him, then why didn’t he sign the ufc contract? he turned it down because dana wouldn’t agree to let his company co-sponsor the fight. which is a ridiculous request in the first place. compared to the ufc, every other league might as well be a b-league.

HA!HA!HA! THIS MAN IS ABSOLUTELY DUMB!!!

Hey Josh, you wouldn’t know a MMA fighter if he kicked you in the back of your face. I can’t believe you have a job unless the dana white hype machine is paying you. Your not even qualified to debate this issue.

*coff* let mhe guess the author is dana white?.. LOL clearrlllyyy some bull the ufc made to trash talk fedor, the onlyy compitition for fedor is brock.. hed walk threw anyy one else, but brock v fedor is still the fight of the millenium.. if it happens

@kmeyers

Once again, this is not my site. This is my partner site. Josh is my editorial writer….not my editor!!

He writes mostly op ed pieces. Some of his other work appears at http://www.mmagospel.com

Kmeyers, I ask that you check out the show today from 6-8 PM EST. We end the show right as 105 is starting so you could not ask for a better lead in to tonights fights.

If after listening to the show you feel that it is awful then feel free to never listen again.

I can tell you that we have been nominated for some awards due to the show and MMA Gospel Radio is going to be much larger in the next year.

I am a mma fan at heart. I have been for over a decade. I study BJJ and have studied muay thai. I have competed in grappling tournaments and my background is as a wrestler.

The show is not just a bunch of keyboard warriors, this I promise you.

Also, please follow me on Twitter so you can see my comments on the fights as I tweet during all fights.

@mmagospel

One of the wrost articles I’ve ever read. Fedor’s last three opponents combined were ranked higher than Brock Lesnar’s last three opponents combined.

Not to mention Fedor is 31-1. Brock is 4-1. Someone obviously hasn’t been following MMA for very long.

The #2 ranked and most accomplished heavyweight in the UFC is Noguiera. Fedor completely dominated him twice back when Noguiera was champion and in his prime.

This article reeks of UFC bias.

HAHAHA, this is ridiculous! Has the writer ever watched MMA?! That may be the reason i’ve never heard sth about fighters.com. Just some wicked UFC nut huggers! LMAO

@Reverend Turk: Fair enough, but isn’t it your responsibility to decide what you re gonna publish on this site?? Next time u should better read the article before posting…

@KingOne

No it is not my job to do that. My job is to gather guests for the radio show, work on constantly improving the show and making more connections.

This site has an editor to that.

I am a radio host. plain and simple

@Malice
QFT/ Cant sum it up any better then that. Other then perhaps this is nothing more then a UFC SPoonfed, wannabe MMA Reporter imho. Comparing Lesnar, Carwin an Cain was./is enough to deem your artice as babblecock, uninformed and UFC Biased drivel. Josh your probably the worst MMA journalist going, and thats saying something. Try watching MMA BEFORE TUF perhaps and/or least TRY and get some facts to backup your uninformed opinions. Perhaps try asking the Other Top ranked fighters who they consider teh best. And Brock at #2? Who thats credible, has him there?

@sparkuri
See, now thats a informed, non-biased, well written artice that was articulated quite well, Props Sparkuri!! Reverend, should hire this man, least he can write and convey his thoughts and messages coherently.

that was so uneducated…wow all the fighters you named have worse or less than better records then rogers and yet fedor fights nobody;s? man please , id love to see rogers pounce on the fools u named. bottom line rogers is a threat and fedor whooped him at his game. that $hit was a brutal hit. only real thing i need to say about UFC is fedor does not go with him as he mentioned is more then 80% of ufc fighters are the american opponents , so the level of competition worldwide does not exist there. he wants to fight all styles around the world in which he has done and in reality has NO LOSES! fedor is not a hype machine your types are. he is more humble and classier then anyone you know on or off tv. hes a true gentleman. you on the other hand are a ufc disciple and blinded by your bias view. if you would have mentioned fighters outside of ufc and made some actual sense then maybe we would have heard you BUT since you obviously think only america has the best sportsmen you are way off. i think americans in general cant stand any sport or sportsmen outside our country and thats a shame. soccer and now boxing are meaningless to americans simply because americans do not dominate it. fedor is human and beatable as he even claims, its just no1 has done it yet and this burns your kind of spindoctors arses! you, dana white and brock are a bunch of shiat talking lil biatches who cant handle the likes of him cus he doesnt sell and you cant own him. shame and shiat on you all.

While it is a given that TPR (The Pudgy Russian as coined by my gorgeous Russian wife) can be beaten by anyone he steps into the ring or cage with, that is specifically what makes him so revered for his accomplishments. He has often dealt with larger than life opponents, that it would seem would crush him, and he has always found a way to prevail. The reason I respect, and even love, TPR is that he is the embodiment of a real life Rocky. He is little more than an average sized middle aged man. He is a humble, respectful, hardworking, balding man with a bit of a spare tire around the middle. He faces down daunting odds every time he goes to work and overcomes them. We, the average men, identify with him. We go to battle with him. TPR is the modern sports era’s ultimate role model. He clings to his values. He goes to work every day, not for the glory, not for the respect and admiration of others, but for self-respect and to provide for those he loves and to fulfill his responsibilities. We are all destined to experience the ultimate physical defeat, but we can only hope that we can choose our path and treat those along that path with respect, thereby perishing with honor and possessing our soul.

Long live TPR. Long may he reign.

Fedor beat the top ranked fighters in their primes. He has fought and defeated huge knock out threats, grappling world champions, and division 1 NCAA wrestlers. He has done all that he needed to do to cement his legacy as the best fighter ever. You think Velasquez, Duffee, and Carwin can beat such a well rounded and versed fighter like Fedor? This is just foolish, he did not duck anything he is making more money this way and after he defeats the best fighters in Strikeforce then maybe we will see him in the UFC. This is only if the UFC offers him the co promotion which makes him way more than the 5 million a fight salary that the UFC offered, also they may get Gegard that way also. Brock would be the only interesting fight for Fedor in the UFC and if Fedor won what would that show to the UFC? That their bread and butter WWE champion is a crock. You already know Brock will beat those other heavy weights in the UFC. The thing you don’t know is that if he is able to beat The Last Emperor, this already makes Fedor better than those other fighters.

@Reverend Turk Vangel
You may just be a radio host, but be careful who you associate yourself with. Because being linked with idiots like this Josh guy is poisonous to your credibility. Especially since you said earlier that you hired him.

Oh, and no, I won’t be tuning in to your joke of a radio show since you clearly surround yourself with morons like this Josh guy.

Lol Epic fail sound like this was written by Dana White himself… lol

@kmeyers

Joke of a show yet you have never heard it. That says it all. That is your option to not listen and I will not miss a beat knowing you have not tuned in. We have plenty of followers that love what it is we do.

@Reverend Turk
Yes, it’s a joke that your judgement is so bad that you hired this clown to be a writer for you. So I have no interest in anything you have to say about MMA.

wow. now see how many people r saying that your article does not prove anything? everyone knows that fedor is the best. All fighters fedor beat are pretty tough guys and everyone loses once in a while. You said they have been beaten by the other fighters too and fedor did not fight them? EXAMPLE: FEDOR KNOCKS OUT ARLOVSKI, ROGERS KNOCKS OUT ARLOVSKI and in the end FEDOR KNOCKS OUT ROGERS. ahahaahahaha you are so funny man.

At Fedor’s age I would be ducking anyone that could cause me serious harm without making serious money. The money at the UFC needs to move up Tyson got paid more 15 years ago. $5M sounds like a lot but when compared with top ranked athletes its an insult, espeacially when every fight maybe your last. This is not like basketball,baseball,golf or poker. The UFC is making serious money its time to pay. Fedor is a survivor, and I beleive he will fight Lesnor when the money is right.

TO MR. Turner. Never have I have so much crap in my life. Fedors no the best? He hasn’t fought the best? Full of BS. First of all Fedor is not some ego-maniac life Dana WHite, the Lorenzo brothers, or Lesnar. He does not consider himself as the best, he never talks down on his opponents, or disrespects them. He is sincere and never afraid to challenge anyone. THe only reason he did not go to the UFC is because of the one-sided contract that the UFC offers to all of its fighters treating them like crap if I may add.

The difference between Brock and Fedor is, Fedor has beaten several bigger guys and Brock has beaten four smaller guys. The truth is, when a bigger guy has beaten a smaller guy, the smaller guy can say “he is bigger”. But if the smaller guy beat the bigger guy, the bigger guy can just say “the smaller guy is a better fighter”. What I’m trying to say is, even brock would beat 100 smaller guys it has no impact at all.

Yeah i agree guys WHO LET THIS GUY WRITE??? You are saying Fedor is not greatest MMA fighter WHAT???!!!??? i mean everyone who knows something about MMA knows that Fedor is the best and he knocked all these top guys out ! And i mean out! And Brock and Fedor will be the same way either Fedor will knock him out or submit him! So when Fedor beats “The Best”. What will you say than?

Dude,
Who put you up to write these lies.. Dana White!!? You are talking crap crap crap and if you take any of the “Great” fighter’s records and opponents and put them up against Fedor’s fight record no one will come close to facing the type of competiton Fedor has faced in their carreers. Brock Lesnar? Who has he faced? Brock is a monster Don’t get me wrong but I would’nt even put him in the same class as Fedor when it comes to opponents faced and skill level. That would be like putting butterbean (Wow what a big strong guy LOL) against Ali or something. You work for Dana White You write this bullshit to promote UFC and Fedor has nothing to prove at the heavyweight level but the UFC does. They haven’t produced a decent heavyweight comparable to Fedor and will not any time soon. Just admit the fact that Dana has no business tact or integrity and respect as a human being. He’s a white Don King who manipulates people and Fedor has too much character and intelligence to allow someone as tasteless and crass as Dana White to exploit him. Dana hates this Which is why he gets idiots like you to write these lies about Fedor!!

I really have to add…To the people who legitimately think Fedor is scared, or ducking…Do you have jobs? Would you go to work for a boss who spends every opportunity bad-mouthing, and insulting you?

Josh Turner or Dana White? same person right !!!!……Cain, Brock, Shane….are babies for Fedor, Fedor beat Coleman too and many others……Fedor number one no question….!!!! Dana White Passion !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…..Fedor

@Josh

Yes, Fedor is a another human that can be beaten someday, but just NOT by any of those weaksauces UFC paper champs u brought up in your article. Who will beat fedor? i dunno, maybe someone will come along in time. At this pointin the evolution of the sport, Fedor IS THE G.O.A.T.

@Josh

i like how u mention about hughes defeating a gracie and not talk about SAKURABU who owned the whole clan of gracies except rickson.. U rly r a MMA noob, casual UFC fan who got hired because u have proficiency in writing and perhaps a degree or some connection. but if u rly have love for the sport, i’d expect u to be a little less idiotic in your analysis.

Fedor is a 6ft guy that lives his everyday life and shows up at weight-ins in his natural form 230lbs. with that said, he has also been seen slaying giants from 6″4-7″2 265-400lbs ALL DAY in his career! UFC is trying create genetic, roid freaks in this division. Brock may have a 15% (tops) chance laying on fedor to a win, but this is a guy that lives his normal life at 290lbs and cuts to the weight by intensive training, and roid + all kinds of drugs that make u cut water weight for 265lbs) and i’m giving him all the benefit of the doubt, 60lb advantage, ROID, and a cage. (which magnifies this size advantage of 2 different sized opponents, in turn favoring the bigger wrestler.)
AND YES, i will back it up with $ when they fight.

I also understand that brock is the last american white champ we have in ufc, but hey dun let emtions take over facts.

I am surprised of the reaction, people know their heroes. Nice job everyone

This is a really poor article. You should be embarrassed Josh. The UFC is on the way out because Dana White treats the fighters like dirt and did so with impunity because of the monopoly he enjoyed for so long. Fedor is a man of values and respect and recognised this. Has he ever once talked down his opponents? He said the UFC deal was unfair so he didn’t take it. Either way MMA fighters have a code, they know the pain and dedication it take to even set foot in the cage, nevermind winning. Dana White is the antithesis of that ethos. The Don King of MMA.

Fedor is the Champ, in how he fights and how he behaves .

Wow… I am always appalled to read some quasi-journalist try to discredit the last emperor over and over again with the same argument Dana White uses when he tries to discredit Fedor. One thing that these people should know is that Fedor never really demanded respect – he earned it. To this date, I have not heard Fedor belittle anyone nor have I ever heard him talk himself up. The guy is most respectful of everyone, even those that are disrespectful towards him. He is a fighter – that is his profession and how he maintains his lifestyle, he has to look out for his best interest. I am certain that he knows there are people who are better at accounting and management than he is, so he trusts them to run his finances and manage his career. Fedor is not in the UFC because Dana White will not co-promote with M1-Global. That’s it.
…and Fedor is not as concerned about his legacy or legend as we are. He wants to live his life in modesty and he is able to do that with or without the UFC. He has nothing to prove especially not to Dana White.
Discarding your one-sided, Dana lubricated, gay dildo of an article…

I do agree that Cain Velasquez versus Fedor Emilianenko would make a good fight.
Brock would make it to the end of the second round before he taps out.
Carwin would tap at the end of the first.

You really should consider writing for a sport that you are more familiar with… How about ice-skating or ballet?

Bunny’s final thought on this matter. Hey author of lie and profound untruth, how much did dirty Dana pay you to write that pile of cat puke? $10,000? $20,000?? $50,000??? Pray tell, senor? I bet you wouldn’t have the balls to utter one single word of that tripe to Fedor’s face. Oh no! You know full well that he’d knock you into the 25th Century like he did to that potty mouthed creep Buck Rogers.

well we all know the truth & its not brandon vera, its Fedor 31-1 and still don’t get the respect he deserves! Strikeforce is making way in the mma world….not much longer till we see the ufc top HW’s follow in Fedor’s foot steps!

Your predictions make no sense. E.g., Despite his size and knockout, Brock did not exactly overpower Couture. And now you are telling us he will overpower a much stronger and versatile Fedor. Speaking about hype and taking Brock as an example of a great fighter is kind of ironic and inconsistent… You can use the same arguments with Brock… he defeated an old couture, a Mir who has been defeated several times before and just now defeated an over-the-hill Minotauro!!!! Brock is not as versatile as Fedor, he is not half the fighter Fedor is.

Furthermore, Fedor do not want to be controlled by the UFC like other fighters are… He is the best, and it should be the guys you mentioned, the ones seeking to fight Fedor ouside the UFC is necessary.

Cain Velasquez got rocked by Chieck Kongo in the few seconds he stood up with him. Not once, but three times. He has no stand up game. A one dimensional fighter like that has no chance against the best of MMA.

Who ever wrote this article? Because they don’t have a clue about mma fighting if you think Brock is so strong and big why did he have a problem with the old over the hill Couture? This is a poor article to try to smear a great fighter and you should be a shame of yourself.

Hah, yeah, an original gospel…

Fedor is the gratest fighter in the world. Other athletes should go and prove themselves with him.

This article is a piss stain.

I am really happy that most of real mma fans know what’s up. Fedor is an athlete of another level, who thinks, focuses on strategies in ways steroid freak Lesnar, who got to where he is by cheating (no wonder he became ill after getting off of steroids, and something tells me it has something to do with his illness), could not even imagine to think in the ring at that pace. He became a silverback w/steroids where Fedor did it by training honestly all his life and by possesing an extraordinery fighter intellect and still remains a professional and respctfull Sportsman (not a cheater). Most of the fighters bring something special to the table but Fedor outsmarts them all in the ring (at least for now, as he himself admitts). Dana White is taking way too much credit for doing something for the sport of mma, where he got lucky to be on the train when it blew up. But now, I think he should be removed for the sake of the Sport and its growth b/c he puts himself in front of everyone and everything else. The only reason UFC prevailed over pride is b/c US posseses a much larger money market then Japan did, so they were able to byu them off and dismantle Pride for the sake of Greed to create monopoly, where it is clear that more competition brings more out of everyone. But Dana is not interested in that, all he cares about is himself.

After reading this article, I will probably not return to this website again because it allowed an undereducated Dana brainwashed dumb ass to write such a one-sided article without any professional insight on the objective. (embarassing)
As for the argument that UFC is an elite league, what does that mean in a sport where only the fighter himself matters? It just doesn’t make any sense.

MMA Forever!

F**k the UFC. F**k that slimey bald creep Dana. F**k all the roided up muscle bound freaks who fight in his shitty org. Fedor is the undisputed p4p best of all times, and it’s beyond dispute, his record proves it. He beat the shit out of Nog when Nog was God. He ripped Cro cop a new asshole back when Mirko was decapitating the baddest demons in hell with his ”kick of death” like they were anorexic schoolgirls. Colemans, Arono, Schlit, Hunt, Arloski, Sylvia, Lindlund, Sobral, Herrings, Kenny Randleman, Fujita, Goodridge, Takada, Nakata, Choi, Buck Rogers etc. Not one of that ‘ murderers row’ could manage to defeat him, which is remarkable considering that no one remains undefeated in this sport, even those who’ve fought much weaker comp than Fedor suffer loses. Going undefeated for as long as he has is truely incredible, but doing it against the calibre of opposition he’s faced is the stuff of folklore and legend.

”Fedor is the light of the world. He who follows him will never walk in darkness, but have the light of life.”

PS
Did any of you guys hear that rumour about Keith Jardine banging Arianny Celeste? Aparently she’s up the duff.

“Each one of the fighters that Fedor has faced and defeated have been defeated by other fighters just the same”

Simply a lie – Rogers was 10:0 before Fedor knocked him out.

“and yet those victorious fighters aren’t touted as the greatest ever.”

Hehe yes – you wanna know why? Coz none of them has a 33:0 record.

“Fedor has not faced the super athletes of today and proven that he can keep up with the evolution of the sport.”

You should stop thinking like a 10 year old. Being a big bulky guy like Lesnar doesn’t make you a good MMA fighter. There’s other qualities needed to become a champ, such as being clever, being able to take punishment and remain calm when you’re in trouble, being able to read your opponent and take advantage of mistakes. Lesnar has’t proven yet that he has any of these qualities. Fedor has proven it over and over again.

“If Fedor was worried about being the best fighter in history, he would seek out the top challenges and test his mettle.”

You said it: IF he was worried about it. But IF you had ever read his interviews, you’d know that Fedor doesnt give a shit about where he is ranked. He has never claimed being the best fighter, and he has stated that he DOESN’T think he is the best on multiple occasions. Go do your homework.

“Big, bad, Brock Lesnar not only has the power to take Fedor down, but has the sheer size needed to nullify Fedor’s wrestling and submission game.”

Lol if “sheer size” would be the key to beating Fedor, than why has Hong Man Choi been submitted by him?

“Although it would probably turn into another Lesnar lay-and-pray special, Brock would defeat the considerably smaller Fedor.”

Most 5 year olds know more about MMA than you do, obviously. At least they dont think that the bigger guy automatically beats the smaller guy.

All in all this article is complete BS.

@Bunny Hemlock
What the hell are you talking about? Dana doesn’t want to pay fighters, muchless writers, don’t be dumb. And White is running a business not a freebie sport, grow up.

“The UFC has always been criticized that they do not have a strong heavyweight class, and until now it’s been true. With fighters entering the Octagon like second-ranked, UFC champ Brock Lesnar (4-1), sixth-ranked Shane Carwin (9-0), Cain Velasquez (6-0), and up-and-comer Todd Duffee (5-0), the tables are turning and now the UFC touts a heavyweight class rivaled by few.”
What a joke. You must be young and a new fan. Take a minute to add all of these fighters total fights win or loss. LOL .. Still not as many as Fedor. These guys don’t deserve shit. They may get a fight, they may be great fighters, but do say they deserve to fight Fedor. You gotta lay off the crack pipe.
Not that I’m all about Fedor I will agree with you about his not reaching out to great opponents, but don’t get your feelings hurt about it. This is a business to him and that is his choice. He knows he will eventually be beat, and once that record is tarnished he won’t be able to ask for million dollar pay days. Its a move that he is using to insure his family stays happy and fed. At the end of the day no one, no one, can deny Fedor is super gifted and a supernatural fighter. The only objection is that he’s not fighting the newbies that you like.
Lesnar is a giant pile of assholes. They need to put a superheavy weight division together for him and any other cow DNA having slow, unskilled, meatheads. Don’t tell me his a great all american, division one wrestler. This isn’t any of those things.
To the rest for your favorites list. Get in line fellas, you gotta earn that shit. You can be a great champion and not fight Fedor. Especially when everyone knows he runs his fight life like a business.

This article is rubbish

You need to actually watch MMA in order to write about it and you my friend clearerly have never watched it in you’re life, this is bullshit, Fedor would destroy Brock.

Lenski my man dont compare cars with fighters its not the same.
You got it all wrong go and read what i wrote about
Fedor and brock.
Brock is a very skilled guy he has it. Mir overrrated ?
I don’t think so he trashed Noguerra something that Fedor coudn’t do.
And Brock thrashed Mir. So i’m not saying Fedor is not good. He is very dangerous
but don’t count Brock out he has a big chance of winning this. Your underesimating.

Its unbeleivable how you morons underestimate Brock Lesnar.
The guy keeps getting better and better.

Fedor’s weakness is a bigger wrestler. He almost lost against a wahed up Coleman.
Imagine what Brock can do. If Fedor dosent submit him Brock will win by decision
ground and pound style or with a choke. Against the cage side ways like he had Mir
Fedor can not do nothing. Brett rogers did not have Fedor in a good position so Fedor got out of it with an arm bar attempt when he was getting gorund and pound. All this proves that Brock has a chance with Fedor. None of them are to be underestimated. There both good.

Duffee DOES NOT have the fastest KO in UFC history, Duane Ludwig does over Goulet. I am not even going to touch on how incorrect you are with all the other misinformed ideas that you put on this article. Just terrible.

This is the worst article i’ve ever read. Fedor is the best mma fighter in history until now. The heavyweight division of the ufc has nothing to offer fedor (other than money), no challenges. Brock Lesnar a champion with 5 fights in his record? I wouldn’t even consider him to be someone to defeat Fedor. I think there’s no one who can beat him right now, I thought Rogers could do some more (not beat him but some more) but like many others before him, he woke up in ground to ask what the hell just happened. The thing is that Fedor is real simple person. He respects fighters a never talks trash about nobody. Fighting is only his job not his passion, he said that on an interview. If some fighters would like to test themselves to last emperor, they should seek to fight him anywhere. The UFC is not the ruler to messure fighters against.

I just hope that Josh Turner isn’t your real name because if the editor of this website is not your uncle or father, you should get fired and would never find a job as writer anywhere. You should say stupid things like these in youtube so people can see your face and hate you, maybe you can get famous.

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@allteeth

”What am I talking about???” I’m talking about that slimey bald cocksucker ”Dirty Dana” waging a smear campaign against the greatest mixed martial artist in the history of the sport and commissioning nefarious third-rate homosexual hacks to do his dirty work for him. That’s what Bunny’s talking about. Dana hates Fedor with a vengeance and there are no lengths he wouldn’t go to ruin his career and bismirch his good name. That cocky prick might be safe now, but if he ever decided to take a little vacation in Russia rest assured that the Russian Mafia would ”get to him”, and even if they didn’t it would only be a matter of time before Putin gave the order to send an elite crack unit of the Spetsnaz special forces round to cave his cue ball head in with the butt of AK-105. No one disrespects Fedor in Russia, not even Nikolai ‘effing’ Valuev.

And when you say Dana is ”running a buisness”, don’t you mean running a ”mafiso buisness”???
As I’m no doubt sure you’re aware, Dana is somewhat of a shady character who has connections to the underworld, but I bet you didn’t know he’s actually has his own little protection racket going in downtown Nevada? And who do you think he uses as ‘muscle’, Sherlock? Yep, you guessed it, his UFC f**k buddy meathead thugs – Brock ”The Bastard” Lesnar and Keith ”The Dean of Mean” Jardine.

F**k that corrupt slimey bald mongoose and all the retarded tattooed muscle bound roiding bastards that fight in his shitty org.

Bunny out.

Bunny Hemlock has just been notified of the illness that is currently afflicting Brock Lesnar and would like to offer his unreserved and sincerest apologies to him and his family for the totally unfounded and base comments he made alluding to Lesnar’s steroid abuse and his role as an enforcer for that mafiso bastard Dana White. Bunny was falsely and maliciously led to believe by a close confidant of Dana’s that Mr. Lesnar was ”under Dana’s wing”. However, a new ”reliable source” has kindly informed me that Mr. Lesnar has absolutely no involvement whatsoever with Dana’s ‘extra curricular activities’, and is not only as clean as a whistle but is infact a fine, upstanding member of the mma community. Bunny would like to wish Mr. Lesnar a speedy recovery from his illness and hopes he will be making a swift return to the octagon to pound the shit out of the UFC heavyweight division once again.

PS
This new source has informed me that Cain Velasquez working as ‘muscle’ for Dana.

@Carlos
Agree fully.

This article is nothing if not amusing. Clearly the author isn’t au fait with either MMA or the records of the fighters that fight in the ranks of the discipline. Take for example this:

“Is he the greatest MMA fighter ever? No.”

Well, then, pray, tell us who IS the “greatest MMA fighter ever”? While there are some worthy contenders (St Pierre, Anderson etc) you’d have to search outside the ranks of the heavyweight division to find them -and even then it is debatable.

And then this:

“Has he faced and beaten the best in the game? No.”

One cannot but help notice that the author immediately runs to the UFC and tries to hype up the current crop of UFC heavyweights as sure-fire Fedor beaters. There’s some talent, sure, but frankly Rogers, the man Fedor just put to sleep, would probably give most of them a really hard time. Let’s not even mention Overeem, who Fedor is on a collision course to face, who I think would probably stiff the majority of the UFC lineup without too many hassles. Let’s not forget that Fedor was, prior to his joining Strikeforce, scheduled to meet Barnett, the consensus #2 heavyweight at the time.

How on earth is that ducking the opposition?

It’s the other way round: the UFC guys are ducking HIM.

@allteeth

I replied to your comment but the powers that be deemed it too risque and incendiary to publish. It seems that some of the mods on this site are also on the Dana White payroll and they don’t want fearless outspoken critics like Bunny Hemlock lifting the lid on, shall we say, some of Dana’s more ‘shady extra curricular activities’. No matter, I don’t want to make things difficult for them, they have a job to do like we all do and families to feed.

Let’s just say, I have more than a hunch that Dana’s shabby little paw prints were all over that article.

I won’t stoop to insulting someone who takes the time to write an article outlining their own opinion. But I want to highlight one rather large inconsistency in arguments about Fedor and mma in general. To do this I will make a comparison that few would make, to boxing. Knowing nothing of fighters, would you say that a boxer with a 31/1/0 record, has won two belts in their wieght division, is undefeated in the last 9 years of their career and has not lost his belt has a greater claim to fame than someone with a 4/1 record and has not lost ina year? There’s your comparison between Fedor and Lesnar. I think that the numbers don’t lie when it comes to Fedor. And this has been one of the best ever PR stunts ever dreamt up by any promoter: ignore the stats and say that if a fighter doesn’t want to fight with my organisation they are no good. What is incredible is that so many fans don’t see the strategy for what it is.

The pressure should be on opponents to prove that they are worthy of challenging Fedor, not the other way around. Challengers should man up and join strikeforce to prove that their statements are not just hot air, knowing that they will never have to face Fedor for real if they stay in the UFC.

@Bunny Hemlock

I can assure you that without a doubt Dana White had nothing to do with this article.

UFC Fighters suck I can’t watch a second of any UFC event. Dana White just knows how to promote his fighter. I bet you when Dana signs Fedor his gonna be bragging to everyone how fedor is the best fighrer in the world and now his in the UFC. So Fuck Dana White and the UFC. Whenever Dana is ready to pay Fedor what he deserves and co-promote with M1 global Fedor will be more then happy to come and beat all the sorry ass UFC so called Champs.

@Reverend Turk Vangel

Firstly, are you really a member of the clergy? Or are you simply masquerading as a holy man in the hope that Bunny will go easy on your ass?

In reponse to your post, how do I know you’re not on Dana’s payroll? How do I know Dana hasn’t ”got to you”? Knowing how that slimey bald cocksucker handles his buisness, it wouldn’t suprise me in the slightest if he’d sent that sassy little cherry Arianny Celeste round armed with a tube of KY Jelly and her strap-on to ”sweeten you up” with a little nosh nosh and some back door bliss. Or maybe if ”the nice way” didn’t get the desired response, Dana’s bonedhead thugs Keith ”The Dean of Mean” Jardine and Cain Velasquez might have payed you a little visit threatening to bite of your testicles and inflict life-threatening injuries upon your person. I’m sure both methods of coercion would be highly persuasive.

I am an officially ordained Reverend, thank you.

Are you serious??? An officially ordained Reverend who hosts his own MMA radio show!? Well, franky I’m speechlees to be honest (if indeed it is true). Don’t you think that might not sit too well with him upstairs, eh?

Anyway, I see you neatly sidestepped my question about being on Dana’s payroll. Nevermind, I understand (wink wink). Far be from me to want to jeopardize the safety of a servant of god. Just one question: How much did Dana donate to your congregation, Reverened?
Still at least it’s for a good cause, eh? And even though your a man of god, don’t make the mistake of thinking that Dana wouldn’t send a couple of his roided up meathead thugs round to ruff you up and trash your church. That slimey bald mongoose is a reprehensible, immoral shitbag and believe me he wouldn’t lose a wink of sleep having a holy man ”offed”. Nor would his meathead thugs think twice about carrying it out. Infact that sadistic murdering bastard Keith ”The Dean of Mean” Jardine would actually derive immense pleasure from urinating all over your congregation’s prayer books and biting off your testicles. Trust me, it wouldn’t be the first time he’s bitten off some unfortunate chap’s testicles for Dana. He’s a very, very evil man indeed. To be honest with you, Reverend, It wouldn’t suprise me if he was a practitioner of the black arts. He certainly looks the part of psychotic-eyed necromancer. Do me a favour please, Reverend? The next time Dana contacts you, be sure to pass on this message to him? Ask him if he remembers the time Bunny Hemlock and Ken Shamrock payed him a visit at his holiday home in Soweto? And tell him Bunny and Ken haven’t forgotten. He’ll understand. Thanks.

Take care, Reverend.

This week’s MMA Gospel editorial is posted at:

After Couture vs. Vera UD at UFC 105, It’s Clear MMA Judging is Arbitrary
http://www.fighters.com/11/18/mma-gospel-after-couture-vs-vera-ud-at-ufc-105-its-clear-mma-judging-is-arbitrary

@Bunny Hemlock

So you are you telling me you believe that God would have an issue with mixed martial arts?

No sir, I am not on Dana’s payroll.

You are quite humorous.

This article is horrible, barely any “facts” are correct and your opinions sound like you’ve never seen an mma match, Brock is good but imho no match for fedor, maybe in 3 yrs he’d have a chance in my book…You have no business writing articles on an mma website, and I hope these comments about you sucking massive balls at writing piss you off so much that you quit so I never have to read garbage like this again… I hope no one payed you to write this crappy article

@Reverend Turk
I know crack heads who are “ordained ministers”…

swear to god

yeah, this is stupid, just because Fedor Emalienenko doesn’t want to fight for the UFC doesn’t mean he’s ducking their fighters, which, by the way, is completely false, we have seen Fedor destroy people like Tim Silvia and Andrei Arlovski, two people who were at one point the top guys in the UFC, plus, I don’t think you’re giving him enough credit for defeating Nogueira, what was it, three times? We have seen Fedor getting rocked a couple of times, yes, but I think his record in Pride says enough, it obviously didn’t pay off for those fighters. and to call Brock Lesnar “big bad Brock Lesnar,” Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira submitted six-foot-five, three-hundred-and-fifty-pound Bobb Sapp. For once, size does not matter. You think Emalienenko is an old school kinda guy, avoiding the “athletes” of today, (“athletes,” because Roy Nelson definately not look like an athlete) why don’t you see any of the other “best heavyweights” moving over to challenge him instead of him having to make the move, UFC already stole Pride away from him, maybe he’s just pissed off.

@nikko

HAHA. Nice. To all who have knocked MMA Gospel and Fighters.com : I would ask you to read my article here:

http://www.fighters.com/11/18/mma-gospel-after-couture-vs-vera-ud-at-ufc-105-its-clear-mma-judging-is-arbitrary

Then after reading you can decide if I am an unedcuated “TUF Noob” a crack head or a truly passionate fan that has followed all aspects of the sport since it’s inception and has trained in the sport.

Josh turner, you are the biggest steaming
pile of shit that I have ever read an article
from. Brock lesnar, Cain, carwin, and that can you named have a combined record that is worse than fedors. Fede would submit brock or KO him, ktfo Cain, and I guarantee that carwin wouldn’t make it out of the first round, either choked or armbarred by fedor. And please… Who the FUCK is Todd duffee? Lol I wonder how much Dana payed you to write this. Fedor is the best, you are a retard.

I hate how so many retards try to use the ” mir finisher nog but fedor didn’t” bullshit. Fesor beat a prime, healthy, submission master nogueira, Mir beat a staph infected, sick, old, brain damaged nogueira. So don’t event try.

The writer’s arguments are completely flawed and exposes him as someone who has a very tenuous grasp of mma and the English language itself.

… and of course, he needs to get Dana’s balls out of his mouth…

Brock is strong…Carwin hits hard…Cain is aggressive…
All true… but Fedor’s strength is that he can win fights… He may get beaten up or find himself in bad situations but he trains to find ways out of them and win. He’s done that over and over again and will continue till he’s in his prime… Fedor’s ducking opposition? That’s very pedestrian and uneducated.

I assume UFC is loosing fans to Fedor Emelianenko. Nice try making someone look bad. It’s never a good strategy. Truth speaks for it self. Fedor Emelianenko is by far the greatest fighter in any and all known martial art industries, he fights strength of his soul and goodness of heart.

Michael :
Josh turner, you are the biggest steaming
pile of shit that I have ever read an article
from. Brock lesnar, Cain, carwin, and that can you named have a combined record that is worse than fedors. Fede would submit brock or KO him, ktfo Cain, and I guarantee that carwin wouldn’t make it out of the first round, either choked or armbarred by fedor. And please… Who the FUCK is Todd duffee? Lol I wonder how much Dana payed you to write this. Fedor is the best, you are a retard.

oh boy, getting fired up over an article. Ugh. It’s an opinion, and Fedor still till this day has not fought a top level heavyweight (at the time) since 2005, so people have the right to question Fedor.

nikko :
This article is horrible, barely any “facts” are correct and your opinions sound like you’ve never seen an mma match, Brock is good but imho no match for fedor, maybe in 3 yrs he’d have a chance in my book…You have no business writing articles on an mma website, and I hope these comments about you sucking massive balls at writing piss you off so much that you quit so I never have to read garbage like this again… I hope no one payed you to write this crappy article

lol says a man who says “sucking massive balls” ugh, people like you make me lose hope in humanity every day. It’s an opinion piece you dont have to agree with it by all means, but come on, that post makes MMA fans look dumb and ignorant. hm.

this was a horrible opinion you cant call it an article.an article contains truth and fact and this article had none.it was just a fedor bashing article saying which fighters fedor would lose to.it was rubbish and if this garbage was published or posted on any decent website the editor and compnay should be ashamed

If this is not Dana White propaganda, then what is? Even though I do not disagree that the “three top contenders” against Fedor are just mere weaklings whom Fedor would plummet through, I highly disagree with the logic used, due to lack of facts and highly opinionated comparison. The purpose of this article was to give a “logical” argument as to why Fedor inst the best; it has done nothing remotely close to it, but only deviated to be a biased UFC agitprop. My friend, the only thing you have proven with this article is how far you are from analyzing the sport. Please, for our and your sake, stop writing.

There are any doping test on UFC ? )

Fedor is the best why do people compare a man who never has been beaten to a steroid freak Brock lesnar with a pathetic record of 4-1.

Why should Fedor keep going out of his way to prove over and over that he is the best. He already established his legacy. He has given a lot of good reasons for not signing with UFC and any reasonable person would be satisfied with those reasons. As he said the contract presented by UFC simply could not be signed, it would prevent him from participating at sambo, it would prevent him from working on any movies, commercials etc. if after his term he remained undefeated it required him to remain with UFC for an undisclosed number of additional fights the contract was absurd, it would mean Dana would own him, why should he ever sign it. If Dana is so confident that UFC has all the best heavyweights why is he so reluctant to cross-promote.
It really doesn’t matter who Fedor fights, no matter who he beats there will always be people brining up another fighter who would destroy Fedor if they ever meet if the ring.
He can’t possibly beat over and over every fighter, that not why many people believe that he is the greatest fighter in the MMA. Every fighter will eventually loose if they stay in the sport long enough, its absolutely inevitable, there is a good chance every fight Fedor fights that he may loose, could have lost agaist Arlovski, could have lost against Rogers, so far he has always found a way to win. He is the most rounded fighter in the MMA ever, you could make the claim that there are players in the NHL better then Gretzky or NBA better then Jordan and there is no way to really substantiate or disprove that claim.
There really is no way to satisfy your conditions of Fedor being the best fighter, even if he beats Lesnar, it will never shut people up. They would just turn around and downplay Lesnar skill with his pitiful 4-1 record and point out some other UFC fighter who would undoubtedly destroy Fedor.

“oh boy, getting fired up over an article. Ugh. It’s an opinion, and Fedor still till this day has not fought a top level heavyweight (at the time) since 2005, so people have the right to question Fedor.”

Brett Rogers and Arlovski are STILL ranked higher than Cain or Carwin. The fact that you even mentioned Duffee gives you away as being intentionally ignorant in light of this article’s “point”. Emelianenko’s last three (should have been four) opponents were all top ten ranked heavies at the time that he fought them. If you’re going to publish this shit, take some pride and do your fucking homework, ya goddam parrot.

spot on! this is funny. I like @Bunny Hemlock

this whole thing should be the other way around. people should be defending brock lesnar, cause he would be the underdog in an eventual emelianenko-lesnar match up. he has no experience, no good stand up game, no jiu jitsu he’s just big but fedor has destroyed bigger fighters than him. i can’t believe that so many people (me including) has to defend fedor’s accomplishments in mma. i guess that’s what happens when you do your job the best way you can and don’t talk trash about other people. one thing is certain, dana white’s efforts to descredit any fighter who doesn’t sell out to him are really working. the ufc heavyweight division is not the best there is, having a champ with a 4-1 record is prove of that. and josh turner sucks not only as a writer but as a person also for being so stupid to have this opinion or for being a sell out and write tihs crap for the ufc. this website and mma gospel radio have no credibility or at least are loosing it for publishing this shit.

It is completely true that at times, judging is completely corrupt, shit happens that shouldn’t, we all have our opinions, and we are entitled to them. I agree with your “Judging is arbitrary” article, but as many know, and by the horrible feedback you’ve gotten, you know, sometimes you can be right, and sometimes you can be wrong, and with respect to Fedor, you were wrong. Accept it, and keep writing, cuz some of your stuff can actually hit home.

@Reverend Turk of MMA Gospel Radio

Well I have to totally dissaggree here Fedor’s record cannot be overlooked for one and in my opinion and I’s sure many other’s would aggree Fedor is a true master at what he does. Lesnar is adangerous as a fighter but, he has not developed the skills to be truly great. He standup needs alot of work as well as his submission game. I’m sure he will working on this but it will be years for him to develop a skill set equal to Fedor’s. If these two fought right now. I believe Fedor would show just how green Lesnar is in MMA.

Futhermore, I just want to comment on everyone saying Fedor has not faced an opponent like Lesnar. I believe this is true. Fedor has not faced anyone with the all the pyshical gifts that Lesnar has. But I believe that Lesnar has yet to face an opponent like Fedor. Lesnar has not faced such an itelligent fighter and calm and collected fighter as Fedor. Fedor would not allow Lesnar’s size and strengh to throw him off his game plan. Fedor would never make the mistake’s that other fighters have agaisnt Lesnar. His iron will would keep him from doing this.

In the end I believe Fedor would break Lesnar mentally first by showing his superior skill in every aspect of MMA and then he would most likely knock Lesnar out in much the same fashion he did agaisnt Rogers.

P.S. – Mir, Coutrure, Valasquez, Kongo, Carwin would all fall before the last emperor.

@Etienne D.

Thank you but I did not write the Fedor article. I only wrote the judging article.

Look for more pieces from me in the future

WHATTTT???????????

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!

This must be put up by DANA WHITE.

Dana white is angry because fedor didn’t want to be his doggy.
Dana white doesn’t care about mma or the fighters…he just cares about the money.
There is so many prove of this…look at the time when Tito was leaving the ufc.
He told everybody the truth about Dana. Dana wants doggy’s to fight for him and promises them a nice future and a lot of money. Tito needs money and thats why he came back on his knees to Dana. It reminds me of the movie called ‘unleashed’.

Look at his favorite fighter…the almighty brock lesnar (who has a whole in his intestines because of the steroids and stuff).
He fought only 5 fights and supposed to be the greatest????
He is just a steroid trained man who can make a lot of money for Dana because he looks mean. Dana can use that for his nice promotion video’s
Brock doesn’t deserve to have a chance to fight fedor…first make at least 20 good fights.

Fedor has beaten more then 5 UFC champs!!!!
Not to mention his huge list of fights without a loss. They want to let fedor lose by putting to strongest fighter in front of him. And when Fedor wins the game they say that he didn’t had a real strong opponent. This always make me laugh

This nice normal looking guy (fedor) destroys everybody

Dana knows that fedor is the best and really wants him. He can make nice promotion video’s about fedors so called mysterious background. Dana would have made millions!
But now he is angry because fedor don’t want to be his doggy.

Do you wanna know why fedor didn’t go to the UFC…

THAT’S BECAUSE DANA DIDN’T WANT TO PUT THE NAME “M1′ NEXT TO HIS TITLE.
THAT’S THE ONLY REASON WHY FEDOR IS NOT IN THE UFC. FEDOR NEVER SAID NO TO CHALLENGERS. CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS? DANA IS SO SELVISH THAT HE WOULD NOT LET US SEE FEDOR FIGHT IN THE UFC BECAUSE FEDOR ONLY WANTED THE M1 LOGO NEXT TO THE UFC LOGO IN HIS FIGHTS!!!!!

I’m going to make a video and put it on youtube.
I will explain everybody THE TRUTH about DANA, THE UFC AND FEDOR!!!

I’m going to call it : THE TRUTH ABOUT DANA,UFC AND FEDOR.
I know a lot of things that the fans don’t know.

Forgive me for my bad english….i’m not from the usa or england.

I’ll be back DANA!

why don’t you get in the ring and put your money where your big mouth is.

this guy is a douche bags he dismissed the rodgers fight saying that it was nothing to buzz about and saying that shane carwin will be a harder fight then why is rodgers ranked higher than carwin.

Fedor has already proof he is the best, don’t be a stupid idiot ! It’s not a game about “I can crush the world with my hands”, I’m the toughest, I’m the greatest. It’s a mental game between youself ! And fedor has proved to the world he has the guts and the brain to keep up with the good skills and record. That’s it.
If lesnar or somebody else wants to do the same, first of all has to prove he has the skills and the guts to improve his record. And also escape from that stupid UFC monopoly, there are more fighters out there , not only the ones that compete in the ufc.
And don’t say anything about rogers, I’m pretty sure he knock you out in his sleep, idiot !
Stop drinking chocolate protein shakes and eating egg whites to look buff man !

Fedor has a signed deal with M-1 global and they are not dodging anyone. Dana White doesn’t want to do business with M-1 global because he is a greedy bastard and want’s to have full control over his fighters. Brock Lesnar would not be able to beat Fedor at this moment. He still hasn’t acquired the necessary skill to beat someone like Fedor.

Josh Turner, just another MMA noob from USA…Carwin and Lesnar? Whaaat? It must be a dumb american thing to believe that a big muscular dude is the badass when it comes to fighting, otherwise the smaller guy has no chance…Fedor would destroy either one of those boring wrestlers in no more than 2 rounds and then still outdrink both of them in the after party! Josh, this is why Pride FC was awesome, cause stupid and boring american wrestlers were getting stomped on, too bad that rule is banned across MMA promotions, i enjoyed it quite a bit!

Did you take a royalty payment from Mr. White to write such a noobish article? I like it though, it brings out the american opinion of Fedor, the king, the greatest heavyweight and p4p fighter of all times and on this planet!

I don’t understand the doubt about Fedor? Fighting in the UFC doesn’t determine globally who the best fighters are, it only determines the best in the UFC. Correct me where I’m wrong please, regarding this notion.

My real issue with this debate has to do with the HW division in general. Lesnar is a gifted athlete, and a massive man, but not a great fighter(yet?). I do not want to see Fedor enter the UFC, because like HH, Mir and Couture before him, he could lose to Lesnar, from sheer size and strength alone. I’ve always had a problem with MMA adopting boxings HW to SHW gap from 205-265. I just don’t see the competitive balance of a 60 pound weight gap when wrestling and grappling etc are involved in an enclosed space. Moreover, does a man at 230 feel less pain when punched by a 285 pound man then, lets say a 205 man? I don’t think so.

Fedor is the best PFP HW in the world, bar none, but he has his limits. Diminishing his accomplishments by stating he hasn’t fought the evolution of the sport is ridiculous. Considering the context of the statement, what is the evolution of the sport? Giant men that can cut to 265, but walk around at 280-295 come fight night, facing opponents that have to fatten up to reach 233? This isn’t Fedor loving, this is just simple observation. Would the same doubt creep up on Silva’s legacy if he lost while fighting at 205? I doubt it. It would be chalked up to stepping up a weight class, so why all the doubt about Fedor’s incredible dominance so far?

Anyway, got off track. Nobody questions the BJ Penn, GSP, AS etc, and they have the benefit of fighting opponents at the same weight (BJ Penn I know has moved up and down numerous times, but that didn’t go so well) yet even though Fedor is a smaller HW, he has continued to defeat all manner of opponent, big or comparable, and still you and many others diminish his legacy. I just don’t think Fedor needs to beat a Lesnar or a Carwin to prove he’s the best there is. Lesnar/ Carwin would have to start beating up athletic 330 pound SHW’s with collegiate wrestling backgrounds before I’d start to take notice as a fan as to whether or not they are worthy to challenge for Fedor’s crown (and really, would that be MMA, or just cattle wrestling?). For that matter, same goes for the rest of the debated PFPs. Lets see them step up and routinely face men 20-50 pounds heavier and see if how their records fare?

Fedor is the PFP champ, by definition inherent in the claim. Silva is close, same with Henderson. Lesnar and the rest of the Gorillas in HW UFC are just that, gorillas. Fans should feel shame for even buying into the Dana White/ UFC nonsense. Those corporate vampires are going to suck the MMA market dry. Zuffa will continue to market, package, brand, copyright, contract, and legally bind everything fighting in NA. Then they will go publicly traded, and cash out. What will be left for NA fight fans will be a hybrid of boxing and WWE, but less entertaining, and much more hollow!!

And really man, Overeem and Duffee in the same sentence as Fedor is silly. Same goes for Valesquez. They have to achieve slightly more then what they have to be taken seriously. I mean you can hype them all you want, if that makes it seem more likely that they’d have a snowballs chance in hell against Fedor. Man, UFC marketing really has blinded many. Good for them I suppose, might sell more crappy pay per views.

THAT´S RIGHT GUYS!!

Fedor is the most complete.

There will be a day that fedor lose…that´s normal. Fedor is fighting strong guys so the longer he fight…the higher the risk that someone gets a lucky fight and win.
But that doesn´t mean he won´t be the best.

There is only one way when you can say someone ´might´ be better then fedor and thats when you win a ´best of 5´ from him.

Amen!

Yo josh do yourself and every mma fan a favor and shoot yourself.

Woowwwww!!!!

This writer must be on his knees and Dana White is in front of him. This seriously has got to be the ONLY article I have read in my life that does not call Fedor the greatest fighter in the world. The writer definitely did not do his research. Fedor did not sigh with the UFC because he is ducking the best fighters, he didnt sign because he doesnt wanna sign away his life. He is too big to just agree to any terms Dana White wants. I put my money on that Fedor will shut down UFC cause they are all about money and not the sport. Fedor is about the sport that he loves, he will not sell out for money like this writer which is probably getting free tickets from Dana White or something like that. Fedor is not the best?!!! What?? I guess every single website / magazine / MMA tv show has him ranked as number 1 for no reason right?

Why is Brock even in the top 10, he has what 5 fights in his whole career and already lost one by gettin submitted by Mir. Mir is not even good, Fedors submition skills would destroy Brock. And what is that Fedor never had never felt a punch? What about Rogers that dude is a beast, he hit Fedor plenty of times and still got dropped. What about Fujita? What about Cro Cop? Why is this Carwin dude any better?

I dont even have to defend Fedor his skill can defend him, so mr writer of this article please stick to writing about baseball or something cause MMA is definetely not your “cup of tea”

Wow do Fedor fans ever get there panties tied in a knot LOL. Fedor is a great fighter and right now him and NOG or the greatest HW’s ever. Times change though and like the writer here many believe Brock is the best now, so big deal Hughes is still the greatest WW in UFC history but right now GSP is the best and many believe will become the best ever but he’s not there yet. Just because the writer believes Brocks better now and maybe a few other fighters doesn’t mean Fedor isn’t still one of the best today. There is no shame in Fedor ducking the UFC M1 knows if there is close to the same calibure of money it would be better financially in the long run and is a better business move and remember at the end of the day fans come and go and Fedor and M1 have families and themselves to think about would you risk long term riches in the deadly UFC HW division or would it make better business since in padding and collecting off Fedors legacy. It’s not what some want to hear but it’s the truth Fedor has not fought the #2 or three HW since NOG deal with it.

Do you really believe that out of the thousands of fighters in the world, the two hundred under contract with UFC are the best???? The UFC heavyweight limit is 265lbs!!! Imagine what Tom Erickson would do to your “BIG” wrestlers, he’s easily 300lbs and a solid wrestler who just happens to be too big for UFC. And all the above with the exception of Cain would be way too slow and way too big not to miss, especially Carwin with his big ol’ head. Cain almost got KO’d by Cheick Kongo!! Fedor is faster than Congo and hits way harder. Brett Rogers would smash thru most of the UFC rankings, without a doubt. And why does Josh Turner try to put it out there like Fedor can’t wrestle?? Must be another UFC fanboy believing all the UFC hype….

The only UFC HW that I can see giving Fedor some real problems is Jr. Dos Santos….keep an eye out for him….

LMAO Tom Erickson would get his ass handed to him by 7 or 8 UFC HW. I don’t what your smoking but that was the most retarded statement I ever heard Heath Herring kicked his ass LOL. You obviously have little MMA knowlege and just made Fedor even look worse with such an ignorant statement. You take both Brock and Fedor out of the picture and the UFC HW divisons top 5 fighters would destroy any other HW division and thats the truth.

Making up numbers is just retarded.

puck head? are you joking or just retarded? i doubt many ufc hw’s could take out overeem, rogers, barnett, werdum or aleks emelianenko.

Jah Overeem LMAO, Overeem would have a tough fight against four or five of the UFC LHW fighters infact he got his ass handed to him by Rua LOL. jah that was funny I hope you were joking? With out a doubt the UFC HW would walk over Strikeforces there is no doubt there Overeem is a great K1 fighter but he’s not a top ten MMA fighter thats for sure. Werdum got Knocked the F out against Santos and is to small to take on any big HW he should really think about trying to get to LHW his JJ skills are great but he is not that strong and gets over powered easily around the same calibure of fighter as Overeem. Barnett great fighter but how good is he with out roids is the question. On the roids yeah he’s a top five and tough challenge for anyone but I can’t see him being able to fight anywere that tests for a long time. All in all Fedor is a great fighter but fighting at Strikeforce is a waste of time and proves nothing.

Your argument is a 2-way street. If these UFC fighters are so great, why aren’t they doing all they can to seek out fights with Fedor? That’s what I don’t get. Fedor has been fighting longer than Zuffa has existed.

yeah agreed. Overeem was a shitty LHW, mainly because he was weak mentally and physically and also very young. i dunno if he’s improved mentally, but he’s obviously gotten a lot bigger and probably has one of the most complete skill sets at HW. which UFC HW could beat Hari and Aerts in k-1? apparently his grapplings not bad either. i’m not gonna deny him juicing because its obvious he has, but thats something that also goes both ways, you don’t think Lesnar’s all natural do you?

Stupid article.

Brock is 4-1 and doesn’t even deserve to be compared to a guy like Fedor who’s been #1 in his weight division much longer than any other fighter in MMA. He’s beaten everyone put in front of him from 2000 to 2010. That’s a decade of dominance. A feat that will most likely never be duplicated.

Lesnar just stepped onto the scene and now we have American douchebag journalists sweeping history under the rug and proclaiming him the “true champion” after only 4 wins (and a recent loss). The fact that he wins because he outweighs his opponents by 40-60 pounds is just sad, but he’ll be exposed soon enough.

I remember the days when everyone said Fedor would get his ass handed to him if he fought guys like Arlovski, Sylvia and Couture (the UFC HW champions of then).

History repeats itself. Same story, different names.

Fedor is ranked #1. If Brock wants to be #1, he should seek out Fedor. Not the other way around. Fedor will take all comers, just like he accepted fights with Arlovski, Sylvia and Couture (last one was prevented by the UFC who was scared shitless that Fedor would ruin yet another one of their champions).

Fedor has more victories than all the guys in the articles combine………………………….

@Carlos

With all your respect. And this is coming from a Fedor fan. Fedor hasnt faced anyone like Brock. You say he has faced bigger ones. But Brock is fast, strong and can wrestle. Remember how Mark Hunt caused fedor mad problems with being on top of him. And Mr Hunt doest have 5% of Brock’ s wrestling.

patquinn :
I don’t understand the doubt about Fedor? Fighting in the UFC doesn’t determine globally who the best fighters are, it only determines the best in the UFC. Correct me where I’m wrong please, regarding this notion.
My real issue with this debate has to do with the HW division in general. Lesnar is a gifted athlete, and a massive man, but not a great fighter(yet?). I do not want to see Fedor enter the UFC, because like HH, Mir and Couture before him, he could lose to Lesnar, from sheer size and strength alone. I’ve always had a problem with MMA adopting boxings HW to SHW gap from 205-265. I just don’t see the competitive balance of a 60 pound weight gap when wrestling and grappling etc are involved in an enclosed space. Moreover, does a man at 230 feel less pain when punched by a 285 pound man then, lets say a 205 man? I don’t think so.
Fedor is the best PFP HW in the world, bar none, but he has his limits. Diminishing his accomplishments by stating he hasn’t fought the evolution of the sport is ridiculous. Considering the context of the statement, what is the evolution of the sport? Giant men that can cut to 265, but walk around at 280-295 come fight night, facing opponents that have to fatten up to reach 233? This isn’t Fedor loving, this is just simple observation. Would the same doubt creep up on Silva’s legacy if he lost while fighting at 205? I doubt it. It would be chalked up to stepping up a weight class, so why all the doubt about Fedor’s incredible dominance so far?
Anyway, got off track. Nobody questions the BJ Penn, GSP, AS etc, and they have the benefit of fighting opponents at the same weight (BJ Penn I know has moved up and down numerous times, but that didn’t go so well) yet even though Fedor is a smaller HW, he has continued to defeat all manner of opponent, big or comparable, and still you and many others diminish his legacy. I just don’t think Fedor needs to beat a Lesnar or a Carwin to prove he’s the best there is. Lesnar/ Carwin would have to start beating up athletic 330 pound SHW’s with collegiate wrestling backgrounds before I’d start to take notice as a fan as to whether or not they are worthy to challenge for Fedor’s crown (and really, would that be MMA, or just cattle wrestling?). For that matter, same goes for the rest of the debated PFPs. Lets see them step up and routinely face men 20-50 pounds heavier and see if how their records fare?
Fedor is the PFP champ, by definition inherent in the claim. Silva is close, same with Henderson. Lesnar and the rest of the Gorillas in HW UFC are just that, gorillas. Fans should feel shame for even buying into the Dana White/ UFC nonsense. Those corporate vampires are going to suck the MMA market dry. Zuffa will continue to market, package, brand, copyright, contract, and legally bind everything fighting in NA. Then they will go publicly traded, and cash out. What will be left for NA fight fans will be a hybrid of boxing and WWE, but less entertaining, and much more hollow!!

It would be difficult to put it any better. I agree with every word you said. You are a smart dude.
I am also one of those that dont want to see Fedor in the UFC because the only thing it might prove is that Even Fedor can be owned by guys twice as big as him. IF lesnar would beat Fedor which is likely. That would prove nothing. Well maybe it would prove what we already know, that size matters. But would he be a better fighter than Fedor? NO! Fedor is a complete mixed martial artist, who is good at every position and who has defeted fighters with significant weight, size advantage.

I just dont see why ppl want to find a guy who is 30 pounds heavier(after cutting another 30 pounds) than Fedor to RAPE him with his size advantage and then say out loud, i told you FEDOR SUCKS, you see he got destroyed he is not the best…….

As for this P4P argument. I think to be even considerd a p4p best than you should have fought in multiple weight classes , faced heavier opponents than yourself and done it good.
Fedor has done that. Dana white calles GSP one of the best p4p yet he says GSP wont probably fight at middle weight due to size disadvantage ( dont get me wrong GSP is very very good, imo best at his weight class). Yet the weight difference between welterweight and middle weight is 15 pounds. within heavy weight class you face guys who can be over 30 pounds heavier( something Fedor has seen often). at extreme cases 60 pounds heavier….

We all know Fedor is a great fighter just because a lot like myself believe Brock would beat him is no disrespect against Fedor and a few others in the UFC would give him a challenge as I’m a huge fan of Fedor I just believe the tools Brock has combined with his size and strength advantage will be to much for Fedor. As far as GSP fighting at MW he could beat almost every guy but going against the pound for pound champion that will carry a 30 pound weight advantage is a different story. in the end it’s all opinion unless they actually fight but I truely believe from watching most of Fedors fights he has troubles with the wrestling style more than any other style wich is why I thought Barnett would have a great chance against him and Brock would own him.

Size and strength don’t always work well against skill- Nogueira vs. Bob Sapp. As for wrestling: Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Tsuyoshi Kosaka, Naoya Ogawa, Kazuyuki Fujita, Heath Herring, Nogueira, Hong-Man Choi, Matt Lindland, all some form of wrestling or another. I’ll admit, Lesnar if a f#@&ing psycho, roid rage much, and he very well could beat Fedor, but I sure as hell know that Fedor would knock Lesnar the fuck out.

That hilarious bob Sapp lost to three or four Heavy weights do you understand the skill Brock has, even if he was 240LBS he would be a good MMA fighter the fact that he is 285 when he steps in the octagon is insane as his wresling skill is nearly twice the skill as Barnetts who over the years was a bigger fighter than most of his opponents and was able to control them with his wrestling Brock has a great chance against Fedor as Fedors only hope is to KO brock.

Its not just size and strength, its Lesnar’s athleticism that makes him so dangerous. Most people don’t like hearing this, but the reality is Lesnar is the evolution of the sport because he’s one of the first truly athletically gifted fighters.

People often mistake experience or physical appearance with athleticism, and that simply is not so. Most athletically gifted people pursue Football, Soccer, Basketball, Baseball, Hockey etc..now we are seeing the transition, where athletes are pursuing MMA, and I’ll tell you right now, 80 percent of the existent fighters will be a forgotten footnote in a couple of years.

This transition will cause fighters and fight fans to reexamine MMA because athleticism will change the approach and shatter preconceived notions of fighter preparation and discipline relevance to training. Athletically gifted people learn faster, and can do much more with less then the average Joe.

MMA fighters up to this point, while having lots of experience and motivation etc, have just not been great athletes, cause lets face it, fighting had been a fringe activity usually dominated by outcasts (in the sense of not succeeding in the typical or popular sports) while the majority of truly athletic people succeeded in the money driven sports.

While I don’t for one second believe there aren’t athletic people in MMA, I just mean the cream of the crop are just now starting to enter, and it will change the landscape forever. If you doubt this, just look at Lesnar, pounding the crap out of Couture, Herring, Mir. Those three alone are about as experienced as it gets, and it would take more then just size and strength to defeat them.

I wrote about Fedor earlier, and this is one primary point I forgot to mention about him. Despite his appearance, the guy is extremely gifted athletically, and I truly believe that is the component of his dominance that is not understood, and why he will always be such a tough opponent for any MMA fighter. Even when he’s not winning a fight, he can adapt, improvise and learn very quickly how to counter and defeat his opposition. His experience, will and IQ coupled with his athleticism is why hes the best in the world, and I don’t see that title being taken from him anytime soon. And with respect to Lesnar vs. Fedor, I still think Fedor would win, despite the size difference, because Lesnar would be facing someone on par with his athleticism, but he’d be way outclassed in experience.

…or Fedor could just submit the huge idiot.. he’s submitted big guys before.. think about it, he does have defence. He was a champion, and in my eyes, he always will be, even if “big bad Brock Lesnar” beat the F#[K out of Fedor, he will always be one of the greatest champions of all time, which is not something I would even dream of saying for Brock Lesnar.

@Puck Head

Fedor would kill lesnar. you talk about fedor not facing anyone. well who has lesnar fought. i hope you dont mention Randy Couture, cuz he cant even beat Chuck Liddell. Not one person in the UFC could match up with Fedor, shoot they probably couldnt even touch Brett Rogers. If Dana really cared about the fans this fight would of been made possible. how hard is it to sign a deal with M-1 Global, make it a 50/50 event. kind of like senguko and dream are doing. Then you can make fedor-lesnar, whomever agains GSP, and Penn. and Anderson Silva against their top guy. THe only victory for strikeforce would be FEDOR, cuz all the other guys are untouchable in their weight classes.

“Fedor is bigger than the UFC all over the world,” Finkelchtein repeated to Fighters.com, a claim hard to verify, but likely true in three key markets: Russia, Japan, and South Korea.

Please……..Fedor is an out of shape fighter…fighting nobody’s and losers who have been kicked out of the UFC…..Fedor lives in fanatsy land, as do his fans….Come to the UFC forget the money and PROVE your the best…..You wouldn’t survive Fedor..It would end your little fantasy career…That’s the real reason behind not coming to UFC…..anything else said is pomp and BS.

robby :
“Fedor is bigger than the UFC all over the world,” Finkelchtein repeated to Fighters.com, a claim hard to verify, but likely true in three key markets: Russia, Japan, and South Korea.
Please……..Fedor is an out of shape fighter…fighting nobody’s and losers who have been kicked out of the UFC…..Fedor lives in fanatsy land, as do his fans….Come to the UFC forget the money and PROVE your the best…..You wouldn’t survive Fedor..It would end your little fantasy career…That’s the real reason behind not coming to UFC…..anything else said is pomp and BS.

What a stupid comment. Fedor has to prove he’s the best to the UFC and their fanboys you shill troll ? Or should I say shitroll. Congratulations on your 16th birthday. Hope you got the Brock Lesnar (or Dana White) fathead you wanted on your bedroom wall. Without Fedor coming to this sport, the heavyweight mma picture wouldn’t have a measure by with other ‘heavys’ are measured.
It’s funny how you and a slight few other idiots hold on to the tarnished opinions that Fedor has to prove his legacy (like he himself even CARES about one) to you or anyone else, rather than enjoying the greatest mma fighter of all time. Sports Illustrated’s fighter of the decade.
Some fighters that say Fedor is the best: BJ Penn, George St. Pierre, Noguera, Shogun, Bas Rutten, Jake Shields, and on and on and on. Here are some embeds from youtube for your dumbass. Now, you will have to copy each one of these imbeds specifically, and when you go to youtube, there is in embed box right below the ‘url’ box on the right side of the screen. You will have to delete the current embed, press and hold down the ‘ctrl’ button on you keyboard, and press the letter ‘v’.

Then GOOGLE ” The greatest fighter that ever lived” /end thread

Best Match-up fight for Fedor Emelianenko in the UFC

1 Fedor vs Frank Mir (for a serious fight)
2 Fedor vs Carwin (for a ‘more serious’ MMA fight)
3 Fedor vs Lesnar (for a highly marketable fight)
4 Fedor vs Anderson Silva (for an exhibition special payperview fight)

Too Funny “Sparkuri”…..Name one Top Contender Fedor has fought in the last 3 Years??? YOU CAN’T! He has built a record on Hasbeen’s & Nobody’s since the fall of Pride…..It’s like being a reaaly good top ten Pitcher in Baseball and then playing in AAA League….Makes it look it easy…He’s not good He is out of shape ( Fat ) and he fights nobody’s …..You stay in your little fantasty Fedor Land….But know this Punk if Fedor comes to UFC he loses to the entire Top 5 Guaranteed!

“Robby”, It’s clear to anyone that reads your crap you’re a complete UFC shill. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. To name three top ranked fighters Fedor has beat in the top 3 years: Andrei Arlovski, Tim Sylvia, Brett Rogers. I’m sure you don’t think they’re top tier. Andrei is what ? Washed up has been the UFC didn’t resign ? Same with Sylvia who got beat by Ray Mercer ? Brett Rogers overrated ? Mark Hunt not a real mma fighter just good at K-1 ? Even though he beat Vanderlei and Cro- Cop in their prime ? Matt Lindland at his prime, but what ? Underweight ? Hong Man Choi who only beat Jose Canseco ? (you might want to google his record). And your, eh hem “point” about AAA league, by that , as far as heavyweights go, would be called by 50% of planet earth, the UFC. I’m sure you heard of them PUNK.
BTW, who’s in your top 5 UFC guys ? Brock (roided out and 4-1, and may never fight again thanx to roid caused diverticulitis) ? Shane Carwin (rated under Brett Rogers before Fedor) ? Frank Mir ( finally living up to potential after several embarrasing performances) ? Dos Santos (legit in my book) ? Kongo ? Cain (that would actually be interesting) ? Noguera (whom Fedor destroyed twice) ? Cro-Cop (past prime and already beat)
All the heavyweights I listed are good fighters and FINALLY give the UFC’s heavyweight division credibility. But other than Nog, no one comes close to the accomplishments of Fedor, and 90% of the planet agrees. Each one of those fighters would or has disagree/d with your completely ignorant opinion. Anderson Silva:”Fedor wouls beat me”.
Shane Carwin: “Of course it would be an honor to fight the greatest fighter that ever lived”.
Brock Lesnar:”It would be an honor to test myself AGAINST Fedor”.
Mir: “I think Fedor is the best in the world, reason being, he’s so well rounded”.
George St. Pierre: “If you ask me about pound for pound, I think Fedor is ahead of me right now-Feb, 5th, 2009″.
Randy Couture: “Fedor is the best pound for pound fighter in the world”.
Noguera: ” He’s the fastest I’ve ever seen, I think physically, he’s the fastest heavy guy in mma history”.
Josh Barnett: “Our great champion, he is the best in the world”.
Tim Sylvia: “I don’t even think he’s human. I don’t think anyone is gonna beat him for awhile”.
Quinton Jackson(Rampage to you): “Fedor is the toughest man on the planet”.
Vanderlei Silva: “Nobody wants to fight Fedor”.
Mauricio “Shogun Rua: “Emelianenko Fedor is the greatest pound for pound fighter”.
Renato”Babalu” Sobral: “I’ve fought people from around the world, and seen many strong fighters. But like him ? Never !”
Brandon Vera: ” Fedor is just too dominate. He’s in a whole different class by himself”.
Jake Shields: “Fedor is the best fighter I’ve ever seen. I watched him live in person in Japan and it was a great experience. You could really see how great he was”.
Kevin Randelman: ” The best to climb in any arena. He’s in his own league and you can’t compare nobody”.
Mark Hunt: “He’s the best and undefeated. He’s the shit. ”
Phil Baroni: “Best in the world, no doubt”.
Mark Coleman: “He is the best”
Bas Rutten: ” Fedor has no weakness. I have yet to find a flaw in his game. I’ve never seen anything like h…..I’m, ..I’m just blown away. He doesn’t care if he looks good in a picture, he doesn’t care if he’s a little chubby, he just fights. His facial expression doesn’t change no matter what he does. I don’t know how he does it”.
Frank Trigg; ” Fedor is the most incredible fighter you’ll ever see”.
Pedro Rizzo: “Fedor is on top”.
Tito Ortiz: “Fedor is the top pound for pound in my eyes”
Joe Rogan(Your co-hero): That is the baddest motherf%#@er on the planet.”
“Big” John McCarthy: “Fedor is the baddest man on the planet”
Yuji Shimada: “Fedor is the best pound for pound in the world”.
Diego Sanchez: “Probably the best ever lived……he’s a living legend right now and I don’t think there’s a man on this that can beat him; the man is unreal, pound for pound best in the world”.
And finally…..”Robby: “He’s not good, he’s fat and fights nobodies”

Merry 18 th Christmas to Wobby, and have a UFC year. And never post again.

BJ Penn: “He’s the best, he’s my favorite”.
Jake Shields:

dude,.. sparkuri is right, and he has all the right in the world to question you. So what if Fedor hasn’t faught people who are up to par with him,.. do you think he would train any less. Fedor has always had mad skills, you don’t become a Russian Sambo champion on blowing people over, and even if Fedor didn’t train, he’d be like BJ Penn, who can beat the fuck out of someone even if he doesn’t train. People like Fedor with their skills, yes, you need a challenge every once in a while, and you need to train regularly, which I’m sure he does, but the shit he has, it’s like riding a bike to him, you never forget,.. but I suppose with you, still using your training wheels, wouldn’t know what that’s like. Get over trying to diss one of the greatest fighters in history, even if he loses, you cannot compare anyone to him, his legacy will live on longer than any of your “top five” pick. Give it up.
And to “sparkuri,” rock on dude!

@robby

@ThE ChieF
Dan Henderson?

@Bunny Hemlock Is about the funniest person I think I have ever read. Where does this person come up with the things he says. Truly a genius. I hope you have your own editorial cause I’d subscribe. Seriously Bunny, I got all my friends to read your posts, they were dying laughing. I think I found someone that finds Dana more repulsive then I do lol

It’s clear to me that the author of this article knows somewhat less about mma history than claimed, or is suspending their honesty, with the hope that if they wail loud enough, fedor will somehow get his balls out and forgo his best interests (and break contract) by joining the ufc..without zuffa meeting the co-promotion prerequisite laid out by m-1.

They have been very open about their needs. Co-promotion obviously is important to the contract. (btw they would actually be opening markets for the ufc, who,in spite of the tuf-noob-fanboy’s wet dream hopes, is not an omnipresent entity). They also will not dishonor fedor or the people of russia by signing away the sambo legend’s right to compete…or make  him relinquish the right to do commercials and otherwise exploit his own brand, as stars in all sports wish to, and in fact do.  

All-time mma great status would, it seems to me, require lasting ability, in addition to dominance during any given fight. Who, in the world of mma has been so dominant, for so long, over so many champs, or prior champs?
Who, if not the great fedor has bested as wide a variety of styles, sizes, and strategies?

At the extreme end of things, fedor gave up 130 lbs th hong man choi. He gave up 35 to rogers and many others.
Some lack of superheavyweights forcing an enormous weight bracket in the major promotions, doesn’t lessen the wonder of fedor being able ktfo or club and sub them.

Is there another fighter in mma that’s routinely giving away 15% or more of his bodyweight to his opponents, and dominating all the same? That’s one of the things that puts the legend in his own league.

Could Gsp run through the Lhw division of any promotion at his present weight? Would Anderson silva have a fieldday at hw, without going up himself? You know the answer.

If we’re looking at p4p then no other fighter really can claim his throne. I don’t hear about this enough in the p4p talk, the fact that he’s mashed fighters irrespective of weight differences. Hell…. ufc nuthuggers like too mock him for fighting lindland, who came up for their fight. By that reasoning, Brock, Carwin and co. Haven’t had any serious fights yet, as they were the superheavyweights fighting heavyweights.   Apply the criticism of fedor to other fighters and they suddenly look pathetic by comparison.

In summary this article was bollocks, and the author an ignoramus, a talentless hack, or as I mentioned before, trying to rattle him as some great I-dare-ya (won’t work)

To the gent who shat out this thing my eyes beheld… 3/10 for the troll job, and congrats on writing what might be the very worst catastrophe of an article, concerning sports, in a generation..or more.  

If I may elaborate, not since Glen “shaky-quill McShakespiel” authored his treatise “Sixteen Reasons Scotland Will be Remembered For Beach Volleyball” in 1892, earning him a death scentence (which basically entailed a tour of Scotland’s beaches)…..has someone so plunged to the source of Suck, as to literally spoil sports for a tangible segment of those exposed to it’s categorically insane contents.  

Whatever drugs you ingested before writing that masterpieceofshit should come with a do not post online under-the-influence-of warning, or a violin so you don’t sprain your numbnuts and have to call a Whaaaambulance.
The best fighter in mma history isn’t a loudmouthed yank with a giant penis tatooed on his steroidy chest…get over it. Until he’s bested, he’s still the best going…and no one’s Mir…I mean near to him on the all time.

Fedor is a very humble man, but assuredly he has tens of millions of fans around the globe who are happy to praise his achievements loudly, on his behalf. These include many of the top trainers, fighters, refs, commentators, magazines, websites, and…well you get the picture.

Also, I doubt very many, if any of the readers of this crack-induced
wwe nuthuggery will tune in to the radio show. To put it in perspectve…were I, or someone else to pen the article “why gravity is optional…one man’s victory over weightlessness through the power of wishful thinking” would you then tune in to my lecture on engineering? Would you live in one of my buildings?

Is it not more reasonable to think that someone who turns a blind eye to tangible reality, lacks the rational basis, and prerequisite fundimental mental framework to speak on matters of subtle detail and nuance with any authority? 

I wouldn’t attend Sarah palin’s English language seminar. I’d take a pass on David duke’s race relations worship, and I’ll sure as shit miss the bollocky radio show that’s affiliated in any way with that steamer we’re all hammering on.

To the author…you suck at thisl…change careers..you lack the wit to be a hatchet man. To rev. Fire this man. This site looks really bad having this degree of stupidity on it. 

How much did Dana pay you? This is full of bullshit and assumption. Yeah, I agree that Lesner, Cain, Shane, or Dos Santos could beat Fedor. BUT, that’s only because anything could happen in a fight. At this moment, no one can beat Fedor 3 times out of 10. He has a great sense in landing fatal punches on his opponents. He can submit and choke. He has a small body for a HW with great muscular strength within. That’s why he’s so quick. All these posts are the answer. He’s the best fighter of all time.

The uniformity of vitriol in the comments to this article is pathetic. While the article is speculative, I would generally agree with its conclusions.

you’re an idiot.