Comments on: Photo Album - MMA Gospel - If Scored Correctly Lyoto Machida Beat "Shogun" Rua at UFC 104

By: Rob

Rob — Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:48:43 +0000

I watched the fight on fight night and then just re-watched it. I think the first round was basically a 10-10 round … it could go either way.

Round 2: Rua 10-9.

Round 3: Machida wins it with a flurry in the middle of the round. 10-9

Round 4: Easiest round to score, Rua 10-9.

Round 5: Rua started strong, but Machida landed more in the last 1:30. I give it to Lyoto 10-9.

So it all comes down to round 1, which was a pick em. I just hope that their rematch delivers a clear winner, but still has the same high level technique displayed in their first one.

By: Alex

Alex — Sun, 11 Apr 2010 22:31:17 +0000

The first time I was a big Machida fan and expected him to dominate, and over the course of the bout I just became so impressed with how Rua fought. And although a Lyoto fan, I was so pissed off when I heard the decision – favourite fighter or not, for the sport to progress the right man needs to be given the nod.

Just finished my third viewing and I still cannot see how Machida was given the UD. Slow the action down and half of Machida’s punches missed Shogun’s head. However Rua landed leg kick after leg kick, to which Cecil Peoples stated “leg kicks don’t win fights”. I’m sorry Cecil, you need firing. Did Forrest not win the title in the exact same way?! Did Cro Cop not win fights by kicking opponents’ legs out from under them?! Was it Machida or Shogun who was bloodied, bruised and limping by the end of the fight?!

It was, and still is, such an entertaining fight to watch. And each time I watch it objectively, and still cannot understand the decision. Shogun wins 4-1 in my book, or 3-2 if you give Machida the first round for the early flurry. After 7 long months we will get to see the rematch, but it shouldn’t be needed in the first place.

If you are a learned fan then you already know the commentary is there to hype fights and make them seem better than they are. But commentary aside, Shogun did enough to win the fight. And if MMA judges like Peoples say he didn’t, then neither Edgar nor Griffin did enough to win their championships either (which they did – and I’m a huge Penn fan, so last night was crushing for me).

By: justin

justin — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:18:10 +0000

@Alex Ramirez im a shogun fan and hate to say this i was wacthing the fight and i thought shogun won but then i wacthed the fight with out the volume and it looked like machida won the leg kicks machida rolls off of them and he gets shogun pretty good with a cuople of knees and punches wacth machidas fights with out volume because he has a much different strategy

By: gee

gee — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:33:35 +0000

Machida won that fight clearly by all 3 judges who are experts. That’s why they are the judge. They see something that we don’t see and maybe we will never understand. That’s why they are the judge.

By: Alex Ramirez

Alex Ramirez — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:31:05 +0000

LMFAO what fight were you watching. Are you sure you were @ ufc 104 cuz i could of sworn i seen shogun dominate machida. you guys dont know how 2 judge fights, theres more then strikes. you need to watch boxing cuz mma has so much more to offer. watch the fight again. ill be nice and say shogun won 3-5 rounds when really i believe it was 4/5 . just look closely, he blocked alot of hits which the judges didnt catch.

By: Matt Fletcher

Matt Fletcher — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:02:39 +0000

Rory’s right when he says Lyoto’s punches hardly phased Rua. My friends argued those were some brutal strikes almost instantly after but I disagreed as they looked like they were pushed off by Ruas’ forearms. I was routing for Lyoto but believed if anyone could beat him it would be Rua after watching him for a few years and reviewing a lot of his fights. I can see a rematch being a cash cow of some type in Dana’s favor, but now that Rua knows how hard he’s got to bring it, the rematch is going to be a damn entertaining throw down. “If you want the win, finish the fight.” is exactly what i was thinking the last round as I thought Rua had won by decision anyway. He should have pushed on Machida and put in one last good effort to finish the fight. Machida had so much to lose but nothing to gain as for Shogun, he should have just took the shot. no shame in getting beat by the champion.

By: Jon Huntley

Jon Huntley — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:46:42 +0000

I completely agree!@Rory Ownby

By: Jon Huntley

Jon Huntley — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:45:38 +0000

I watched this fight with no volume because I watched it at a bar. Couldn’t hear squat. Most people were rooting for Machida. IMHO Shogun Rua won that fight easily. He had Octagon control, we was the more busy fighter, he landed FAR more strikes (forget about clean strikes), he was on the offense nearly the entire fight while Machida was on the defense most of it. I think the winner of the fight has to work for it. The only hard work Machida really put out was on the receiving end of some nasty kicks. I might add, Shogun won more convincingly against Machida than Forrest Griffin against Rampage. But man, what a GREAT fight. I thought it would be a snoozefest but Shogun Rua made it a fight to remember.

By: Rory Ownby

Rory Ownby — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:31:29 +0000

Well Josh i have watched the fight about five times and can’t give the fight to Machida! Funny thing is that i was pulling for Machida when i first heard that they were fighting! If you watch the fight with keen eyes then you will notice that Machida missed alot of punches! At first glance it appeared that most of these landed cleanly, but this is not the case. Shogun had a very good guard and stuffed alot of these. I agree that Machida landed some great shots throughout the fight but overall Shogun wasn’t phased by them as much as Machida was by Shogun’s awesome body attack! Shogun also landed more shots throughout the fight and controlled most of the fight! I guess none of this is good enough to win a fight though huh? Come on now Machida even knew he lost at the end of the fight! He was suprised to hear his name when they announced he was the winner! Shogun clearly won this fight by one point! Think about this people-”A kick hurts much worse than a punch”! You shouldn’t have to knock out the champ to beat him! If this is the case then why do they have a point system? I am not hating on anybody but look at the fight again and draw your own conclusions! MMA fans are the best fans in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!