MMA Gospel - If Scored Correctly Lyoto Machida Beat "Shogun" Rua at UFC 104
By: Josh Turner Posted On: November 4, 2009 at 4:54pm
The fiery debate over MMA judging was doused with gasoline after the recent title fight between Fighters.com and UFC Light Heavyweight Champion “Dragon” Lyoto Machida (16-0) and third-ranked challenger “Shogun” Mauricio Rua (18-4).
Ultimately Machida was awarded the unanimous decision, but by no means was the victory without controversy. I was at UFC 104 and, prior to the decision being announced, predicted the match going to Machida by the score of 48-47.
That being said, I didn’t think Machida dominated Rua in his typical fashion and watched the UFC’s most elusive fighter take an unexpected beating.
Regardless of my scoring of the fight, a statistically analytical review will shed some light on this highly-debated match up. For statistical data, I referenced Fight Metric’s break down of the fight.
Round One
Machida came out in this round and stuck to his usual game plan, forcing the usually aggressive Rua to chase him. Rua showed great patience and landed 15 solid leg kicks, something that most of Machida’s past opponents found impossible. Machida showed his usual elusive patience and landed nine solid body shots and only one leg kick.
It appeared that although Machida was still hard to aggress, Rua’s game plan was to take “The Dragon’s” legs out of the equation. By sheer numbers alone, Rua appeared to have taken this round by out-striking Machida 19 to 11.
But, what most casual fans don’t realize is that the scoring criteria that the judges use scores higher for “clean” striking than sheer volume.
CSAC judge Cecil People’s was quoted as saying, “Clean strikes are valued more-so than the quantity of strikes landed. You have to keep in mind we always favor the fighter who is trying to finish the fight, and leg kicks certainly don’t do that.”
Although I disagree Peoples’s “leg kick” comment, Machida won the first round using his criteria. Rua also had one takedown attempt defended successfully by Machida, therefore scoring grappling points in favor of Machida.
Round Two
The second round featured more of the same game plan for both fighters. Machida was still making Rua come to him and looking for opportune times to counter. Rua came out and threw another impressive series of 14 leg kicks, effectively containing Machida’s leg attack and minimizing Machida’s kicking game to a mere two kicks landed.
Rua also began to land body shots in round two, out striking Machida by double and landing a total of six solid body shots. Although Machida was landing a few shots, Rua shook them off and stayed focused and patient. Machida did unleash two solid power shots to Rua’s head in this round and successfully defended another Rua takedown attempt.
By a statistical account, Rua took this round.
One of the factors over which Machida did maintain an advantage was dictating when and where the fight happened. Machida is a master at forcing his opponent to chase him and attempt to push the fight. And, when his opponents chase, Machida unleashes his lethally accurate counterattack. Although Machida did stick to that game plan, Rua did a phenomenal job at fending off Machida’s counterattacks and working to land strikes as well.
Based on the “quality-over-quantity” method, I found this round hard to score. Machida won this round on all judges’ score cards, and next to no one else’s.
Round Three
Machida came out for round three looking winded and noticeably affected by Rua’s onslaught of leg kicks. Rua continued his assault on Machida’s legs, landing another nine leg kicks throughout the round.
However, Machida finally seemed to find the accuracy with his hands, landing 15 total head and body shots. Rua attempted another failed takedown, but still showed a great ability to find his range, landing ten shots to Machida’s head and body. Machida’s usually lightning fast defense was too slow and Rua began chipping away at the holes.
This was arguably the closest statistical round, Rua landing 19 shots to Machida’s 15. Machida also shook off another Rua takedown attempt. Machida won the hearts of all three judges this round, but few fans were swayed.
Round Four
Round four was where Machida began to show fatigue and Rua’s damaging leg attack paid off. Machida threw a measly three strikes all round while defendind a takedown attempt.
On the other hand, Rua seemed to gain steam as the crowd cheered his name. Rua landed another five solid leg kicks and lit Machida up with a total of five power strikes to the body and head of the champ.
It looked like Machida was finished and just dodging Rua’s hungry attack. But, on California State Athletic Commission’s Nelson Hamilton’s card, Machida won the round.
Machida looked battered, moved slowly, and landed next to nothing. Machida obviously lost round five.
Round Five
Machida, although bruised, battered, and tired, seemed to know that he lost the previous round and came out for the final round trying to push the pace. Unfortunately for Machida, Rua came out with the same mind set and looked crisp.
Rua was fighting with patient aggression, nearly doubling Machida’s strikes, and continued to land leg kicks at will. Rua attempted no takedowns, thus no grappling points could be awarded to Machida. Machida was exhausted and beat up. Rua won this round.
At the end of the fight, the jury was out.
Rua did the best job yet at neutralizing Machida’s puzzling style. Machida appeared mortal. Both fighters left it all in the cage. But, based on the criteria professional judges use to score fights, Machida won by the score 48-47.
Round One: 10-9
Round Two: 10-9
Round Three: 10-9
Round Four: 9-10
Round Five: 9-10
When watching a fight live, UFC broadcaster Joe Rogan and Mike Goldberg aren’t whispering their own biases in my ear. Also, live UFC events last about six hours and, by the time the main card hits, the live audience is full of beer and ready to cheer and jeer anything. Don’t always interpret the crowd’s reaction as reflective of what’s happening in a fight.
Finally, as everyone knows, never let the judges decide. They are human and have their own views and opinions. If you want the win, finish the fight.
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Comments
Well Josh i have watched the fight about five times and can’t give the fight to Machida! Funny thing is that i was pulling for Machida when i first heard that they were fighting! If you watch the fight with keen eyes then you will notice that Machida missed alot of punches! At first glance it appeared that most of these landed cleanly, but this is not the case. Shogun had a very good guard and stuffed alot of these. I agree that Machida landed some great shots throughout the fight but overall Shogun wasn’t phased by them as much as Machida was by Shogun’s awesome body attack! Shogun also landed more shots throughout the fight and controlled most of the fight! I guess none of this is good enough to win a fight though huh? Come on now Machida even knew he lost at the end of the fight! He was suprised to hear his name when they announced he was the winner! Shogun clearly won this fight by one point! Think about this people-”A kick hurts much worse than a punch”! You shouldn’t have to knock out the champ to beat him! If this is the case then why do they have a point system? I am not hating on anybody but look at the fight again and draw your own conclusions! MMA fans are the best fans in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I watched this fight with no volume because I watched it at a bar. Couldn’t hear squat. Most people were rooting for Machida. IMHO Shogun Rua won that fight easily. He had Octagon control, we was the more busy fighter, he landed FAR more strikes (forget about clean strikes), he was on the offense nearly the entire fight while Machida was on the defense most of it. I think the winner of the fight has to work for it. The only hard work Machida really put out was on the receiving end of some nasty kicks. I might add, Shogun won more convincingly against Machida than Forrest Griffin against Rampage. But man, what a GREAT fight. I thought it would be a snoozefest but Shogun Rua made it a fight to remember.
I completely agree!@Rory Ownby
Rory’s right when he says Lyoto’s punches hardly phased Rua. My friends argued those were some brutal strikes almost instantly after but I disagreed as they looked like they were pushed off by Ruas’ forearms. I was routing for Lyoto but believed if anyone could beat him it would be Rua after watching him for a few years and reviewing a lot of his fights. I can see a rematch being a cash cow of some type in Dana’s favor, but now that Rua knows how hard he’s got to bring it, the rematch is going to be a damn entertaining throw down. “If you want the win, finish the fight.” is exactly what i was thinking the last round as I thought Rua had won by decision anyway. He should have pushed on Machida and put in one last good effort to finish the fight. Machida had so much to lose but nothing to gain as for Shogun, he should have just took the shot. no shame in getting beat by the champion.
LMFAO what fight were you watching. Are you sure you were @ ufc 104 cuz i could of sworn i seen shogun dominate machida. you guys dont know how 2 judge fights, theres more then strikes. you need to watch boxing cuz mma has so much more to offer. watch the fight again. ill be nice and say shogun won 3-5 rounds when really i believe it was 4/5 . just look closely, he blocked alot of hits which the judges didnt catch.
Machida won that fight clearly by all 3 judges who are experts. That’s why they are the judge. They see something that we don’t see and maybe we will never understand. That’s why they are the judge.
@Alex Ramirez
im a shogun fan and hate to say this i was wacthing the fight and i thought shogun won but then i wacthed the fight with out the volume and it looked like machida won the leg kicks machida rolls off of them and he gets shogun pretty good with a cuople of knees and punches wacth machidas fights with out volume because he has a much different strategy
The first time I was a big Machida fan and expected him to dominate, and over the course of the bout I just became so impressed with how Rua fought. And although a Lyoto fan, I was so pissed off when I heard the decision – favourite fighter or not, for the sport to progress the right man needs to be given the nod.
Just finished my third viewing and I still cannot see how Machida was given the UD. Slow the action down and half of Machida’s punches missed Shogun’s head. However Rua landed leg kick after leg kick, to which Cecil Peoples stated “leg kicks don’t win fights”. I’m sorry Cecil, you need firing. Did Forrest not win the title in the exact same way?! Did Cro Cop not win fights by kicking opponents’ legs out from under them?! Was it Machida or Shogun who was bloodied, bruised and limping by the end of the fight?!
It was, and still is, such an entertaining fight to watch. And each time I watch it objectively, and still cannot understand the decision. Shogun wins 4-1 in my book, or 3-2 if you give Machida the first round for the early flurry. After 7 long months we will get to see the rematch, but it shouldn’t be needed in the first place.
If you are a learned fan then you already know the commentary is there to hype fights and make them seem better than they are. But commentary aside, Shogun did enough to win the fight. And if MMA judges like Peoples say he didn’t, then neither Edgar nor Griffin did enough to win their championships either (which they did – and I’m a huge Penn fan, so last night was crushing for me).
I watched the fight on fight night and then just re-watched it. I think the first round was basically a 10-10 round … it could go either way.
Round 2: Rua 10-9.
Round 3: Machida wins it with a flurry in the middle of the round. 10-9
Round 4: Easiest round to score, Rua 10-9.
Round 5: Rua started strong, but Machida landed more in the last 1:30. I give it to Lyoto 10-9.
So it all comes down to round 1, which was a pick em. I just hope that their rematch delivers a clear winner, but still has the same high level technique displayed in their first one.